IdleRich

IdleRich
It's quite interesting that thing the right do where they don't try to abolish the ministry for feminism or whatever they just put an anti feminist in charge of it. Or make an oil tycoon the minister for the environment. Or whatever.
Yeah... it's not a new thing but it's very effective. Must be extremely dispiriting for the rank and file who are presumably dedicated to the cause when they have a boss brought in above them who doesn't even believe in climate change or whatever. It's truly Orwellian...
"the Ministry of Truth, which dealt with lies, the Ministry of Peace which dealt with war, and the Ministry of the Environment which dealt with fracking the shit out of Kent and digging up the arctic to find oil".
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
What do we think of Patel's chances of survival? Clearly there's just going to be more and more shit coming out. Guess it depends how quickly the news moves on. Johnson isn't going to sack her but I wonder if it'll get so bad that she might somehow fuck off?
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
The child of immigrants who hates immigrants. This govt are actually so awful I could see something catastrophic happening and her leaving.
 

boxedjoy

Well-known member
she'll be fine. If you're fine with a Home Secretary who seems to want to spend her time on the shores with a dart ready to deflate rubber dingys of immigrants and see them drown, a few swear words at some perceived jobsworths is nothing, especially now we've all seen The Thick Of It turned into a meme.

You're never going to appeal to the morality and guilt of these people because they don't have any.
 

version

Well-known member
It's just interesting from a strategic standpoint that they have made a group decision not to attack the concepts at all just to undermine them.
I think that's because they can't come up with a coherent rebuttal. You look at the way they campaign and it's almost entirely based on demonising the opposition. They don't have any ideas of their own. All they can do is wreck things then point to the wreckage as evidence of them not working.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
She'll be slowly steered into another dept via some reshuffle.

Any other time in recent history this horde of cunts would've been metaphorically taken out into the woods at night in lorry-trucks, handed a spade to dig and metaphorically dispatched.

I can't believe it's been 10 and a half years. Torypocalypse.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
She'll be slowly steered into another dept via some reshuffle.

Any other time in recent history this horde of cunts would've been metaphorically taken out into the woods at night in lorry-trucks, handed a spade to dig and metaphorically dispatched.

I can't believe it's been 10 and a half years. Torypocalypse.
Yeah, the worst that'll happen is that she'll get notionally "sacked", but of course just shunted sideways into another job.

Seems almost incredible that, once upon a time, disgraced ministers actually resigned. These days they don't even really get demoted, just put somewhere else. Look at Liam Fox, FFS.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
The attacks on Patel will be spun as the white middle class "woke brigade" seeking its revenge on someone from an ethnic minority who has the temerity to buck the trend by supporting Brexit and being shit to immigrants. Bullying will be amplified as plain speaking and its opponents as snowflakes.

Piece of piss.

Teresa May was a vile Home Sec and look what happened to her.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
The attacks on Patel will be spun as the white middle class "woke brigade" seeking its revenge on someone from an ethnic minority who has the temerity to buck the trend by supporting Brexit and being shit to immigrants. Bullying will be amplified as plain speaking and its opponents as snowflakes.

Piece of piss.

Teresa May was a vile Home Sec and look what happened to her.
I don't understand how she ever came back after those secret meetings in Israel which she first denied, then got caught attending some more, then denied, then changed her story to say that the Foreign Office (Johnson) had given permission and then admitted that that was a lie too. And resigned.
Basically busted making secret treasonous meetings expressly forbidden by the PM, with a foreign power. How can she still be in charge of people's fucking destinies.... or, rather, fates?
 

version

Well-known member
Interesting to see them being so up front with their campaigners about this stuff. No pretense of being in the right. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be fake as it's so on the nose and hits on so many of the usual talking points used against the Tories, but I also wouldn't put it past them to be this brazen.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
That was in the good old days... just another way that this bunch are so much worse than all their predecessors that we thought were the worst ever.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
I can't be arsed reading political biographies but my guess is that some of them have genuine affection for each other yes. But some will be psychopaths too.

They are only worse because the electorate allows them, or urges them, to be worse.
 
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