Drag / witch house

MK-ULTRA

Active member
the as yet non-existent "Drag / witch house" thread...
There was a bit of discussion on Salem etc on the Hypnagogic pop and Juke threads...

I agree Salem didnt come across very well in the interview posted on the juke thread: http://vimeo.com/10292988 and understand the hipster accusations but i agree with franz where he says their music...
is at least somewhat amazing
Downloaded the Salem mixtapes and whilst badly mixed and structured i was intrigued to hear them playing 4/4 dance tunes slowed right down, would be interested to hear any other (more successful?) examples of this.
Inspired by screwed hip hop and the beginnings of new beat, a friend and I have experimented with this (4/4 at 33) using the term shitalo over the last few years at snails pace.

As regards to other acts which are being called drag I havent heard that much. Out of what i have oOoOO and Stalker seemed the most promising. Any tips?
 

michael

Bring out the vacuum
Downloaded the Salem mixtapes and whilst badly mixed and structured i was intrigued to hear them playing 4/4 dance tunes slowed right down, would be interested to hear any other (more successful?) examples of this.
Inspired by screwed hip hop and the beginnings of new beat, a friend and I have experimented with this (4/4 at 33) using the term shitalo over the last few years at snails pace.
I'm crossing the hipster streams, but Games have a bunch of mixes that are slowed right down. Often more sort of new age synth stuff than dance tracks (although certainly some Italo stuff - Tarzan Boy from memory!?), but I remember reading one-half of Games (the famous half) describing them as sounding like Codeine ... which is pretty close to explicitly referring to screwed & chopped stuff.
 
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Alfons

Way of the future
I like the concept more than the actual music, at least as far as Salem goes. Listened through the album once, has some interesting points and a few places where you go "this might be good" but then it doesn't really live up to it, imho.

Maybe I should check the mixes and other artists, any special recommendations?
 

CrowleyHead

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As far as Salem, it's welcome to me just because it's got a slight sheen of muck to the whole thing. It's nice to know music can be dreamy without sounding like another guitar crescendo/post-Aphex heroin coma. And it's taking everything I like nowadays, and somehow making them fit.

Dude really should avoid rapping live though. He's kind of awful.

Also in the Drag/Witch House field, there's someone named "Master Suspiria Vision" making all these convoluted mixes... Like, Horror Rave. It's pretty formulaic, but he's got some attention so it might lead to something.
 

Leo

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to paraphrase an old reese's peanut butter cups commercial:

"someone got chillwave in my goth!
someone got goth in my chillwave!"
 

slowtrain

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I really like a lot of the 'concepts' these genres bring up, but I'm not really feeling any of the tracks i;ve heard so far, it seems kinda sloppy and just bashed together lazily to me
 
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droid

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Some of this stuff is quite good. Kind of a mix of Italian horror soundtrack, industrial and 4AD type vox with loads of dirty south snare rolls.

I was expecting utter shite.
 
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droid

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Amicose

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Just making a fist of listening to the whole Salem album. Started off worrying that I was going to have to admit to everyone what I'd done and what a good time I had, cos I was having a good time at the start but then the same dread ennui you see in the interview video happens. Which is like a totally valid thing but definitely not something I'm setting out to recreate by listening to it again.

Sort of unfortunate for them that they just happened to want to make this really easily explicable synthesis of goth, juke toms and pounding euro techno just when industry's demanding a new rehash of something cos all the old rehashes are losing momentum. There's enough in there to think that in circumstances they could have gone somewhere interesting, and it's always interesting to ask why certain things are being rehashed but they're just docile and apposite to the times enough to make this boring thing with their eyes totally on the prize.
 

stephenk

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Own trumpets blare : http://www.thestoolpigeon.co.uk/features/salem.html

Apologies. Follow-up interview to those I did previously for No Pain In Pop/Stool Pigeon.
ohh this was nice, i feel the nirvana thing too, and this: "during the time i’m in america, theirs are the only conversations that extend beyond pointless, say-nothing small talk."

i feel like i should say something about this controversial genre but i'm too disinterested. salem makes me cry and hype williams are nice too because they seem batshit insane.
 

Leo

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surprised no one has brought up the whole "salem booed off stage at sxsw" thing. i like some of their records, but i can't say i blame the crowd here.
 

slowtrain

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Actually, those white ring tracks are really great. I need to check out some Hype Williams then I suppose...

Whats with all the triangle shit though?
 

samdiamond

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I've been listening to this so much recently
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Not too sure about most of this stuff though
 
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