rolling tv thread

[Corpsey]

What appears to be the problem?

 

[pattycakes_]

Nothing, just being daft

 

[Mr. Tea]

That's certainly true of FG as it devolved into a parody of itself but I don't think it was quite that bad when it started. Certainly made me laugh a lot.

The real shame is that the Simpsons became like FG - possibly to keep up with it? The Simpsons was a fundamentally grounded and sweet-natured show with surreal flights of fancy, and then it became just a surreal free for all ala. FG, and it didn't fit.

I think the rot started when Simpsons had to compete for edginess with SP but really went into free-fall when FG started.

 

[Mr. Tea]

I've not watched South Park in ages, used to be a huge fan of it. There was that controversy recently over claims of it having given birth to the alt-right.

SP has always delighted in being un-PC but I think the idea that it's inherently right-wing, never mind that it "birthed the alt-right", is very lazy and sounds like the opinion of someone who's never really watched it but has written a hand-wringing article about it for BuzzFeed or the Independent nonetheless.

 

[luka]

i did a thread abut it called telly makes us mean and horrible

 

[Mr. Tea]

i did a thread abut it called telly makes us mean and horrible

Joke's on you, I don't watch telly and I'm mean and horrible anyway.

 

[Corpsey]

SP has always delighted in being un-PC but I think the idea that it's inherently right-wing, never mind that it "birthed the alt-right", is very lazy and sounds like the opinion of someone who's never really watched it but has written a hand-wringing article about it for BuzzFeed or the Independent nonetheless.

The argument is more that it cultivated a nihilistic view of politics in which both sides are just as dumb as each other.

Actually I think SP was a little ahead of its time in diagnosing the polarisation of American/World politics and the hysteria and self-satisfaction you can find on both sides of that divide.

 

[Leo]

...but agreed, Idris Elba is the one who has becone more than just an actor and who has reached the level of being a personality, sexiest man in the world etc etc has he actually been in much else that's good though? Can't think of anything off the top of my head, but that's what it means to be an icon I suppose, you get bigger and bigger regardless of whether the films you choose are shit.

perhaps I'm in a minority but I liked most seasons of "Luther". also, as much as I love the wire and his character, I have to reiterate a point I made here years ago: his US homeboy accent was pretty bad. too affected, studied. maybe American ears are more sensitive to the nuance.

 

[Corpsey]

Yeah I think the Brits all thought Idris Elba and Dominic West nailed the yank accents. Particularly as most of us had never seen either of them speaking in their real accents before.

But I bet Americans feel differently about it.

 

[Leo]

Yeah I think the Brits all thought Idris Elba and Dominic West nailed the yank accents. Particularly as most of us had never seen either of them speaking in their real accents before.

But I bet Americans feel differently about it.

thanks for reminding me, corpsey, because Dominic west did indeed nail his US accent perfectly, to the point where it was disorienting to me to hear him speak in real life. I'd forgotten about that.

some brits can pull it off, America actors usually sound like jerks when they play a British character.

 

[yyaldrin]

i had to watch rick and morty once with a date and it depressed me so much, every minute of it was a torture.

 

[boxedjoy]

only ever seen Elba in Family Affairs and the r&b musical with K Michelle he directed

 

[boxedjoy]

I don't think SP birthed the alt-right but I think about high school twenty years ago and the big cultural totems - especially with the boys - were Eminem, Jackass, and South Park. There's a nihilism and cruelty in them. We were meant to be laughing at them, not with them, but nuance is wasted on teenagers, and now they're all in their 30s and that pseudo-ironic 4chan culture is everywhere and you can see it's in the same continuum

 

[Leo]

i had to watch rick and morty once with a date and it depressed me so much, every minute of it was a torture.

the show or the date?

 

[luka]

I don't think SP birthed the alt-right but I think about high school twenty years ago and the big cultural totems - especially with the boys - were Eminem, Jackass, and South Park. There's a nihilism and cruelty in them. We were meant to be laughing at them, not with them, but nuance is wasted on teenagers, and now they're all in their 30s and that pseudo-ironic 4chan culture is everywhere and you can see it's in the same continuum

The Monster Energy Drink Continuum.

 

[Corpsey]

What was that 90's American shock culture all about? We had the same thing in the UK with lad mags, Eurotrash, etc.

Was it something to do with the cold war ending?

Or was it a delayed aftereffect of Thatcher/Reagan?

 

[Mr. Tea]

the show or the date?

Sounds like a pretty hot date (if you're into BDSM).

 

[luka]

What was that 90's American shock culture all about? We had the same thing in the UK with lad mags, Eurotrash, etc.

Was it something to do with the cold war ending?

Or was it a delayed aftereffect of Thatcher/Reagan?

not the same thing.

 

[luka]

monster energy drink continuum
lads mags
eurotrash

three things with nothing in common.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Yeah, I tried to draw a line between the Bro and the Lad here before and luka shot me down in flames then.