rolling tv thread

[luka]

i was very disappointed in everyone on that thread. i didn't single you out.

 

[poetix]

Agree with IdleRich btw that Noel Fielding's Luxury Comedy was embarrassingly bad. The Boosh had gothic undercurrents which served it well, when you take that away you just get mirthlessly zany.

 

[version]

I'm not convinced Jackass was nihilistic and cruel, at least not entirely. It was like hanging out with a big group of mates. The crew was manufactured, but they seemed to become genuinely fond of each other over time.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Agree with IdleRich btw that Noel Fielding's Luxury Comedy was embarrassingly bad. The Boosh had gothic undercurrents which served it well, when you take that away you just get mirthlessly zany.

Kevin Eldon - who was great in Brass Eye, Big Train and all that stuff - had his own show a few years ago, and that was embarrassingly bad, too. Again, just wacky-zany with no real point or bite.

 

[pattycakes_]

Boosh was awful, @poetix.. One of the worst things to happen to UK comedy in a long time, and that's saying something. The goth thing was phoney!

The four horseman of the Apocalypse in the UK are as follows: Ricky Gervais, Russell Brand, Noel Fielding, and Jimmy Carr. There are worse (less funny) comedians on telly but none of them fan the flames of the end times half as much as those 4 fucks.

 

[IdleRich]

Yeah I think the Brits all thought Idris Elba and Dominic West nailed the yank accents. Particularly as most of us had never seen either of them speaking in their real accents before.
But I bet Americans feel differently about it.

There is that weird scene where he has to pretend to be English and his ccent is terrible. An in-joke I suppose.

 

[IdleRich]

perhaps I'm in a minority but I liked most seasons of "Luther". also, as much as I love the wire and his character, I have to reiterate a point I made here years ago: his US homeboy accent was pretty bad. too affected, studied. maybe American ears are more sensitive to the nuance.

Makes sense. I didn't see him as the break-out actor to be honest.
Luther was disappointing from what I saw.
Love South Park - that's why our cat is called Leopold... not after you I'm afraid.

 

[IdleRich]

Kevin Eldon - who was great in Brass Eye, Big Train and all that stuff - had his own show a few years ago, and that was embarrassingly bad, too. Again, just wacky-zany with no real point or bite.

I never saw that but previously I liked Eldon.

 

[catalog]

I used to love this big train sketch

 

[Mr. Tea]

I served him once when I worked in a real ale pub in Euston many years ago.

 

[luka]

if thats the pub im thinking of it's the worst smelling pub ive ever drunk in. in fact im pretty sure they've pulled it down now cos of the smell

 

[linebaugh]

What was that 90's American shock culture all about? We had the same thing in the UK with lad mags, Eurotrash, etc.

Was it something to do with the cold war ending?

Or was it a delayed aftereffect of Thatcher/Reagan?

Think it coincided with punk culture approaching that twenty year historical gestation period where things become fully understood/realized/normalized etc. Nirvana embodied that: an actual spawn of punk culture but completely unable to do anything effectively counter cultural and subversive.

 

[Mr. Tea]

if thats the pub im thinking of it's the worst smelling pub ive ever drunk in. in fact im pretty sure they've pulled it down now cos of the smell

No, that was the Bree Louise. Different pub. It got pulled down because of HS2, although it was quite notorious for the smell.

 

[luka]

There's no point having good beer with bad smells. You can't enjoy the taste of something when your noise is full of horrible smells. The two sense are too linked. I'm glad they've pulled it down.

 

[luka]

i had another gamergate moment watching Chernobyll recently. theres a woman nuclear physicist character who realises what is going on before it is offically announced and works out how to deal with it then goes and demands to speak to the leadership and saves the day.

i thought, that aint real is it. they've made up a completely ridiculous fantasy strong female character to indoctrinate us with feminism. i dont agree with this,.

 

[luka]

i finished it just now. watched the last two episodes. let me make a serious point, another one. when the writers, of below average, some would say subhuman, intelligence fail to extend the critque of ideology outwards to encompass us in the winner west, the whole spam face show feels like cheap propaganda, for a war which was won 25 years ago.

 

[IdleRich]

I loved the scenes when Chenobyl was blowing up and the guy from Friday Night Dinner was going mental. I think he stole the show... he WAS a real person who - I think I'm right in saying - was involved in and got radiation sickness from two different nuclear accidents.

 

[Mr. Tea]

i had another gamergate moment watching Chernobyll recently. theres a woman nuclear physicist character who realises what is going on before it is offically announced and works out how to deal with it then goes and demands to speak to the leadership and saves the day.

i thought, that aint real is it. they've made up a completely ridiculous fantasy strong female character to indoctrinate us with feminism. i dont agree with this,.

I guess you're at least half-joking here but I think the USSR was pretty good at promoting traditionally male occupations for women, especially in science and academia, or at least a bit better than most Western countries at the time - so this scene is probably less unrealistic than if it had been in a story about the Sellafield or Three Mile Island disasters.

 

[luka]

i was, sort of joking, sort of serious, i felt it was a mistake and i didnt like it. it was clear to me that she was a made up character in a show which mostly stuck to the facts and that made me uncomfortable.

 

[luka]

it was an ideological decision in a show which is partly about the shortcomings of ideology.