grime worldwide?

Eric

Mr Moraigero
I'd be interested to hear from people in places other than the US and Canada (and of course UK) if grime has any presence there. I guess there was this recent show in Paris discussed on another thread, and I know that in Japan there is starting to be a scene. Plasticman was there not too long ago as people probably know, and Slimzee will be there with apparently Wiley MCing next month----the scene seems to be limited to Tokyo so far though. As far as I know the rest of Japan is pretty high and dry----I've been told there's not a single DJ in Osaka, for instance, which has huge dancehall and hiphop scenes.

How about elsewhere? There was a funny article in Vice about a tiny scene (at least 10 people :) ) in Mogadishu ... how about SA for example?
 

HMGovt

Bamber Clatscoigne
The latest Vice magazine has feature on grime in Somalia. The kids love Dizzee, but the owner of the local shop likes So Solid, so they throw stones at his shop. Apparently one of Dizzee's entourage is Somalian, that's how the goods got out there.
 

ambrose

Well-known member
2step.ru is becoming less grime-resistant than it used to be but theyre mainly all about the 4x4and well...2step
 
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captain easychord

Guest
HMGovt said:
The latest Vice magazine has feature on grime in Somalia. The kids love Dizzee, but the owner of the local shop likes So Solid, so they throw stones at his shop. Apparently one of Dizzee's entourage is Somalian, that's how the goods got out there.
i swear to god that story was made up.
 

ukbass

Well-known member
I read yesterday on a mailing list that kode9 is playing in Brazil next month. Wonder how much grime has reached there so far?
 

Eric

Mr Moraigero
ukbass said:
I read yesterday on a mailing list that kode9 is playing in Brazil next month. Wonder how much grime has reached there so far?
interesting! seems like it might be one place that a scene would spring up, in my mind anyway.

truth or fiction the Vice story was massively amusing ...
 

minikomi

pu1.pu2.wav.noi
autonomicforthepeople said:
Yes I find this fascinating - Grime being the first scene to grow up live on the Net.

breakcore?

also from aus.. no scene in mah city but plenty of love for the tunes.
 

mms

sometimes
Eric said:
interesting! seems like it might be one place that a scene would spring up, in my mind anyway.

truth or fiction the Vice story was massively amusing ...
well yeah, they have a brazillian form of drum nd bass out there.
there seem to be alot of brazillian immigrants coming into london at the mo, this brazillian girl i worked with for a bit confirmed that loads of young brazillians are coming over.
incidentally anyone heard the baille show on resonance on tuesday mornings i think it is.
 

daren

Well-known member
The city I live in is pretty much unaware of Grime besides Dizzee. But even the college station doesn't have "Showtime" added into rotation. Being a college town, most kids listen to mostly indie-rock or mainstream radio. I may be one of the few who actually knows that "Grime" is a genre in this town.
 

Eric

Mr Moraigero
how about Jamaica? Someone mentioned that Matterhorn had a dub on Forward at the UK Cup Clash ... anyone know if this is a general thing or a `one-off'?
 

theo

pollymarchs 4 eva
Well a lot of the people in slsk who message me about tracks are french. Its very strange because there English is barely good enough for us to communicate, but the ones I spoke to are back flipping about grime. They love it.
 

HMGovt

Bamber Clatscoigne
HMGovt said:
The latest Vice magazine has feature on grime in Somalia. The kids love Dizzee, but the owner of the local shop likes So Solid, so they throw stones at his shop. Apparently one of Dizzee's entourage is Somalian, that's how the goods got out there.
The feature:

http://www.viceland.com/issues_uk/v3n4/htdocs/mogadishu.php

The third world's taste in music sucks dick. They still love Michael Jackson. In fact, the most far-out they'll go is Janet Jackson. Maybe they're too focused on not starving or getting hacked up by a rival ethnic sect's machete to pay attention to the Top 40, but helllloooo? Can we not at least check out something from after, say, 1990?

What's that you said? "The indigenous sounds of other cultures more than makes up for their lack of knowledge of what's hot or not in the Western world"? Bullshit. Sure, you might tune into NPR now and then and hear a saucy mix of a two-stringed guitar playing West African rhythms over a polyrhythmic ancient drum machine programmed by some poor bastard in a shack that only has electricity two hours a day and think: "Righteous." But the guys who are actually making music are in the minority. For every Youssou N'Dour, there are 2.7 billion starving, illiterate, backward bros who will tell you, with a straight face, that Robbie Williams is the greatest singer since music was invented.

Typically, the poorer the country, the worse the music. That's why I was excited (you know, in a morbid way) to travel to the world's biggest shithole recently. Somalia.

No one in his or her right mind would be heading to Somalia. It is basically a locked fucking door. I was getting paid to check out never-before surfed waves off the horn, so I had to go. (I'm a professional surfer.)

The most extensive coverage Somalia has gotten since 1993, when some Army Rangers were ripped limb from limb by a rioting horde on the streets of Mogadishu, was the movie Black Hawk Down, which was about soldiers getting ripped limb from limb… you get it. That's Somalia's claim to fame—soldiers getting eviscerated by bare hands. And the movie wasn't even shot there. They made it across the continent, in the safe marijuana haze of Morocco.

Somalis spends their time killing each other, making goat meat spaghetti, and dying. This is not racist hyperbole. Look it up. The average life expectancy there is 47. Cavemen lived longer than that. And since it has no government, there's no one to issue visas or keep the law. Warlords rule whatever chunk of desert they can carve out. Somalia is an AIDS-infested ultraviolent moronic hell. Is it any wonder that I assumed they would all be listening to Michael Jackson?

Just to insure a pleasant trip, my iPod broke in half before our plane landed. So I was totally music-free later that day, out with my entourage of surfers and Somali escorts (a.k.a. one-eyed civil-war veterans), when my hair suddenly blew back off my face as I witnessed the most amazing thing I have ever seen to this day.

A group of kids were playing soccer in a vacant lot with a stereo blasting fucking Dizzee Rascal. Now, you probably don't appreciate this as much as you should. Dizzee Rascal's Boy in da Corner was being played at full volume in a place that is so separate from the world and its customs of civilized behavior that it may as well be Mars.

One of Somalia's So Solid Crew contingent.
We approached the ragtag group of kids. Between Somali, Arabic, and English, we had basic communication covered. I asked them if they liked the music. One of them answered, and I quote, "Disssseee, 'es graft oy." Another kid started giving the thumbs-up and saying, "Dissseee veddy nice, Dissseee veddy good." I asked where they got their tape. The tallest kid pointed at another one (who had his tongue sticking out) and said, "Bari, Bari." I asked, "Bari?" (which I later found out was just a direction), and he told me his cousin or uncle or something was in Dizzee's crew.

My perceptive Western brain was ready to call bullshit on these guys, but there was some compelling evidence in front of me. First, "Fix Up, Look Sharp" was blaring across the dirt field. Second, "Bari" had scrawled "Rol [sic] Deep Krew [sic]" on top of the stereo. Third, why the fuck would they be lying? They live in Somalia.

I did some research that night and found out that another popular activity in Somalia, besides getting diseases and killing people, is getting out of Somalia immediately. Somali refugees are streaming into ghettos from Ottawa to Stockholm as fast as they can. A particular hotbed of Somali immigrants exists in the UK, which has created a superhighway of grime and garage music speeding out from London's underground to Galkayo.

I found the "Rol Deep Krew" again the next day. They told me that "Dissssee" pretty much rules their neighborhood. Some kids listen to Wiley, but they're nerds. What these kids really hate, though, is that pansy-ass garage shit perpetrated by So Solid Crew. They said there was a guy across town that ran a shop and loved So Solid. They weren't into that guy, his shop, or his bottled water, so every once in a while they go chuck rocks at his windows or try to kill one of his dogs. Yes, you are hearing this right. The old-school UK Garage vs. the new-school UK Grime beef is not reserved for the streets of East London. It is also going strong in fucking Somalia!

Somalis don't like American rap much, either. Some of it they were into, like early NWA and Snoop, but they were most decidedly NOT down with 50 or Puffy. They talked about how the American rappers were "niggers," poor and stupid. "We aren't niggers," they told me, so they didn't want to listen to that shit.

"Bari" seemed like he had a sweet hook-up in London. He ran home and brought back a stack of crazy tapes that comprised a huge library of unreleased material from "Disssseee" recording sessions. These were tracks that the biggest Grime aficionado in New York would sweat. Tracks that most likely didn't make it to record because the samples couldn't be cleared. The quality was super bad, but as soon as they cranked it up, the Rol Deep Krew was jumping and dancing like it was being piped down straight from the pearly Bose in the sky. We hung with the Grime kids for a while as they strutted up and down the dirty streets of the worst town in the world, rocking the most progressive and relevant music being made in Western culture today.

Then we decided to split off and check out their rival, the So Solid Crew guy across town. The kids gave us good-enough directions and were right about his shop being shit. His English was also shit but he did love his So Solid. He sat there wearing a pink satin ladies' jacket, and broke it down.

"How long have you liked So Solid Crew?" I asked (in Somali and Arabic, with So Solid Crew in English).

"Long time."

"Where did you get this music?"

"Braddah."

"What about the kids across town who like Dizzee Rascal?"

"Fuck."

There you have it. Here we were in the middle of Hades, and the beef between Dizzee and Megaman is alive and well. We didn't want to start an all-out war, so we grabbed his bottled water, which was indeed shit, and respectfully walked out the room thinking, "What the fack is going on?"

HERP J.T. SMITH
 

alo

Well-known member
Honestly, Vice are such smug tossers. Someone should put shit through their letterbox.
 
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