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Leo

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I prefer the Hardwax oneliner approach.

they're great, like a form of haiku, the barest amount of info to let you know what it's all about.

a quick look just now:

Reduced, direct dj tool
Lethal dark Drum & Bass missiles
Deep cinematic Mills Techno outer space flight
Killer high-impact big room Techno bomb
Pure, minimalist House class
Irresistibly propelling Techno impertinence
Outstanding, gripping, crisp Designer Electronica-Techno
Supreme UK Dub Garage distillations - Tip!
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
they're great, like a form of haiku, the barest amount of info to let you know what it's all about.

a quick look just now:

Reduced, direct dj tool
Lethal dark Drum & Bass missiles
Deep cinematic Mills Techno outer space flight
Killer high-impact big room Techno bomb
Pure, minimalist House class
Irresistibly propelling Techno impertinence
Outstanding, gripping, crisp Designer Electronica-Techno
Supreme UK Dub Garage distillations - Tip!
Reminds me of the back of a library record....

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IdleRich

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Which entirely makes sense I suppose if you consider that in each case the music being discussed is entirely functional music as a tool.
 
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boxedjoy

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Imo good music writing should make you at least somewhat interested in the subject. Whether it's super dry and matter or fact or hyperbolic fanboyism, the whole point is to get ears and eyes on the subject.

Gonna read that craner ting in a second. I've started writing a mix round up thing so slate it or rate it. But if you're gonna slate it please go in detail.

I really enjoyed these! I'm going to have to spend a time with International Orange's archive.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Related : https://cdm.link/2019/01/hardwax-data/

Just want to clarify that I do read long form music reviews as well; I am not a "tool".
I'm not sure if that is a reply to what I said but I wasn't calling anyone a tool, I was just saying that techno tracks can be seen as functional tools designed specifically to mix with other tracks and work the floor in a specific way, just as library music is designed to bring a specific mood at certain moments of a film or radio programme etc and so (if you are gonna use it in that way) it makes sense to describe both of them purely in terms of the relevant characteristics.
 

trilliam

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I really enjoyed these! I'm going to have to spend a time with International Orange's archive.
Appreciated bro. And yeah they got some good stuff on there still. The articles on britcore and funkys ACS (university afro-carribean societies) heritage are def worth checking out.
 

thirdform

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I don't agree good music writing should be about enthusiasm and proselytising. I'd rather read a thoughtful review of a 7/10 record that explains well why it's not a 9 or a 5, than hyperbolic praise about something that doesn't let me figure out if I myself would enjoy it and why.

This is the problem though. 7-10 records are the optimum for the fact/pitchfork establishment. There are too many, far too many 7-10 records that get reviewed. That's the whole way that ecosystem works, because 10/10 is supposed to be reserved not for mind blowing or electrifying music, but what has been defined as adhering to some nebulous notion of timelessness and innovation. The physical sensations are completely discounted from the immediate experience, and a ruthless dualism is necessitated. It's why you will get blokes (and its usually blokes) moaning about the lack of restraint in hard acid records for instance. I want reviews that own up to their prejudices, not try and repress them under white puritanism.
 

thirdform

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this is why i am adamant, even more than Luke, that liking 93 darkside jungle is a requirement of this forum. Because it is literally the sound of ones head, as a fuse, blowing out. psychodelic rather than psychedelic. Pure rhythm and texture.
 

thirdform

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This is the problem though. 7-10 records are the optimum for the fact/pitchfork establishment. There are too many, far too many 7-10 records that get reviewed. That's the whole way that ecosystem works, because 10/10 is supposed to be reserved not for mind blowing or electrifying music, but what has been defined as adhering to some nebulous notion of timelessness and innovation. The physical sensations are completely discounted from the immediate experience, and a ruthless dualism is necessitated. It's why you will get blokes (and its usually blokes) moaning about the lack of restraint in hard acid records for instance. I want reviews that own up to their prejudices, not try and repress them under white puritanism.

You see the problem with this approach in that recent floating points record. Veteran spiritual jazzer is fetishised so it still has to be at least a 6-7-8, rather than the 2-3 it really is due to floating points utterly ruining pharoah's sax lines. One has to get away from this idea of music as concept and story into this idea of music as experience.
 

thirdform

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You see the problem with this approach in that recent floating points record. Veteran spiritual jazzer is fetishised so it still has to be at least a 6-7-8, rather than the 2-3 it really is due to floating points utterly ruining pharoah's sax lines. One has to get away from this idea of music as concept and story into this idea of music as experience.

One also has to get away from music as sound sculpture - a la conceptronica, and into music as triggering events, which are by no means always linear or coded into pressing a set sequence of buttons.
 

woops

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music is not a texture. it is not a coded set of responses to an overall effect. it's detail: per @thirdform, the value of music lies in its disjunctions
 

boxedjoy

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the role of criticism isn't just to say "this record is good/bad/middling" though, it's to entertain and provoke and stimulate as a product itself. You can read the pages of reviews in The Wire and enjoy the writing knowing you're likely to never hear (much less own) the material being covered. Scores might the framework to get the page views in, but the pleasure of a well-written and insightful and revealing review is its own artform.

I've enjoyed plenty of reviews of albums I thought were unlistenable. I think a great critic can make you doubt yourself without making their own presence intrusive.
 

william_kent

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the role of criticism isn't just to say "this record is good/bad/middling" though, it's to entertain and provoke and stimulate as a product itself. You can read the pages of reviews in The Wire and enjoy the writing knowing you're likely to never hear (much less own) the material being covered. Scores might the framework to get the page views in, but the pleasure of a well-written and insightful and revealing review is its own artform.

I've enjoyed plenty of reviews of albums I thought were unlistenable. I think a great critic can make you doubt yourself without making their own presence intrusive.

I often lie in bed listening to a car alarm going off, thinking "how would The Wire review this?"
 

woops

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I often lie in bed listening to a car alarm going off, thinking "how would The Wire review this?"
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thirdform

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Can't agree with this. The best critics are like being sucked in on a peak acid trip. The point is not to make you doubt, but to upend everything you thought you knew. If your feelings about a critic are like oh I disagree with them because xyz, then they aren't a good critic. They have to make you either love or loathe them. They have to be magnetic. You either wanna buy them a few pints and talk about music for days with them or kick them to a pulp. Otherwise it's just boilerplate goldsmith-ism. It's why I hated Mark on Dido, not because Dido's music I find dull (though it is to me personally) but because the only thing he could do is treat it as surrogate literature. But if I want literature, I'll go for James Joyce or Samuel Beckett or Dostoyevsky. I'm quite against middle ground compromises. I tend to like them as a fancy, but I can never commit to them. It's why I didn't mind Joy Orbison for instance, when I first heard him, it was quite pleasant actually, but when people started falling head over heals about it, I began to dislike his stuff intensely. Cos people were seeing a peak experience in it which was not there, and that to me became nauseatingly pretentious, in the original sense of the term, pretending to be historians of the hardcore continuum when they were anything but.
 
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