The Matrix vs Ghostbusters

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catalog

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it's too circular. too meta. i want something simpler, where the machine fights with the human, but it's the human that's evil.
 
Leo

Leo

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I pass by the Ghostbusters fire department station in Tribeca quite often. The movie logo is painted on the sidewalk out front, and there's inevitably a family taking a photo of their young kid with one of the fireman.
 
craner

craner

Beast of Burden
Leo said:
I pass by the Ghostbusters fire department station in Tribeca quite often. The movie logo is painted on the sidewalk out front, and there's inevitably a family taking a photo of their young kid with one of the fireman.
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This is the one thing I didn't do when I went to New York and I regret it to this day.
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich

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The book ends with a dying Neville realizing that, to the vampires, he is the bogeyman, the stuff of nightmares, as vampires themselves were once to humans. He will become a legend, not because he's a great man, but because in his extinction he will be a cautionary tale and a mythical figure to a newly formed society.
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Same in The Girl With All The Gifts, the humans are out evolved by the zombies, though they are not morally better, simply "fitter".
 
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catalog

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Hmmaybe but I don't want aliens or zombies, i want a machine. Metal. Like a synthesiser, an inanimate object with buttons that can make music. It doesn't talk to you like hal though. I want something qualitatively different to an aspect of a human. So no zombies or aliens. A different sort of thing.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

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catalog said:
Hmmaybe but I don't want aliens or zombies, i want a machine. Metal. Like a synthesiser, an inanimate object with buttons that can make music. It doesn't talk to you like hal though. I want something qualitatively different to an aspect of a human. So no zombies or aliens. A different sort of thing.
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Sure I get you... can't immediately think of any so suggesting parallels instead.
 
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You're asking for something pretty specific and I can't imagine the film industry going for a story pitting humans against machines where the humans are the villain and the machine's inanimate and incapable of dialogue. There isn't much room for drama there.

Stuff like I, Robot, RoboCop and Batteries Not Included has the good machine/bad humans thing, but none of them quite fit the bill. There's Chappie too, but I haven't seen that one.
 
IdleRich

IdleRich

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There's loads like Chappie were a machine lines up with goodie humans against baddie humans, but ones where we are invited to sympathise with machines vs humanity as a whole, I'm drawing a blank I'm afraid.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I can barely remember AI (Kubrick/Spielberg) but isn't that sort of about how horrible humans are compared to androids?

If this has already been brought up I apologise, sort of, but also not at all.
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
catalog said:
Re the matrix, can we have just one film which is very seriously saying that humans are the problem not machines?
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Avengers Age of Ultron flirts with this idea except you're not supposed to agree with the merciless robot killing machine that concludes after scanning the entire internet that humans are terrible.
 
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catalog

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I've never seen AI but isn't the AI in that in a human form, so it's like the replicants in blade runner?
 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
He's a little robot boy and I think he gets abandoned. Also Jude Law is a sex robot and he gets treated like trash.
 
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