The Matrix vs Ghostbusters

luka

Moderator
Watched the Matrix the other day. It's a top film. Although some of it has aged horribly - the super slow mo machine gunning cops sequence feels like such an outmoded idea of cool. (I am willing to bet that this was my favourite scene as a yoot.)
It draws very heavily from Neuromancer and Neuromancer has the same very uncool notion of the cool. "righteous dub mon"
 

luka

Moderator
It was embarrassing at the time. It only ever appealed to school shooters on an aesthetic level. The leather trench coats and the wrap around shades. Cyber-Crusties. Now it's more endearing than cringe though. There's enough distance. Nerds creating nerd hacker boyfriends (Neo/Case) who somehow manage to pull sexy ninja assassin ladies. (Molly/Trinity)
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
It draws very heavily from Neuromancer and Neuromancer has the same very uncool notion of the cool. "righteous dub mon"
Ha, yeah - I mean I enjoyed the book but the space-rastas, in particular, are well cringe.

I'm not sure you can judge the book's shades/trench-coats/latex aesthetic too harshly, though, purely on the basis that it was largely the origin of all that stuff. Interesting to compare it to Blade Runner, the other main point of origin for all things cyberpunk, which IMO has aged pretty well. Perhaps that's because the film's aesthetic was already partly retro as well as futuristic.
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
It was embarrassing at the time. It only ever appealed to school shooters on an aesthetic level. The leather trench coats and the wrap around shades. Cyber-Crusties. Now it's more endearing than cringe though. There's enough distance. Nerds creating nerd hacker boyfriends (Neo/Case) who somehow manage to pull sexy ninja assassin ladies. (Molly/Trinity)
The "acceptable" way to read that scene is it's doing a video game (like the Kung Fu fighting - with that silly but endearing bit where Keanu mugs Bruce Lee)

But there's also the problem that the cops they're massacring (I think I'm right in saying) aren't bots like the agents. They're real people in a VR world. So it isn't actually all that cool massacring them.

It's a bit like that scene in the police station in terminator except the murderous cyborg is the HERO.
 

version

Who loves ya, baby?
They're often killing people when they manage to kill or stop an agent too as the agents seem to morph into passersby then morph back out when they die, like that one Trinity shoots in the head after Neo does his limbo thing.
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
Something about super-slo mo action and nerds

A specific type of nerd

The sort of nerd who jizzes over 300.

Adolescent PHWOARRR shots
 

version

Who loves ya, baby?
The action scenes in 300 are like the film equivalent of fucking about with the replays in football games.
 
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