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rubberdingyrapids

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“None to Me” is the first track here to display these qualities, as Takeoff raps about his lack of interest in a mere flex. He begins with a simple boast—“Like looking at my money stacked/That’s why the whip I ain’t bought one”—but inverts it, transforming into an opportunity for reflection. “Not that I can’t get one, or not that I don’t want one/So booked, if I even got it, I wouldn’t have time to drive one,” he continues. These bars exemplify the upside of a solo record: More time to fill means more time to muse, and Takeoff is an interesting person to spend time with. He weds Migos’ slashing digressions to quirky thoughtfulness.

He shouts out his grandma and requests that those he share dinner with say grace. The cosmos, his elders, an abiding religiosity: These are recurring motifs for the rapper born Kirshnik Khari Ball, and this earnestness even makes the album’s title seem like more than a cheap joke about his pseudonym.

The Last Rocket is the closest we’ve been yet to seeing one of the Migos with his mask off.
pitchfork, ignoring the fact that maybe seeing any of migos with their mask off just isnt necessary.
 

rubberdingyrapids

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the whole point of them is how similar they each sound to the other. you dont really go to them for individual voices (and im not sure they have much of those).

rap albums of the year?

im sure youve got more varied lists but mine would prob be:
shy glizzy
roc marciano
pusha t (though not sure if this is just for how it was made than what it actually is)
cardi b
armand hammer
open mike eagle - what happens when i try to relax

i need to catch up with what jpegmafia put out this year.
 

WebEschatology

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I gave "Drip Harder" a listen last year and it was only "ok"

yeah theyve got chemistry but im not exactly convinced either of them are these exceptional talents (although Lil Baby did get Starlito on his album which is cool and apprently is his favourite rapper)

i just think them two need work cause all the talk of them "replacing" young thug did more harm than good, they just dont have the quality or daring to even take the spotlight from him, Drip Harder is flashier than Rich Gang the tour for sure but its not exactly "better"
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
Definitely finding a lot of rap quite stale ATM, although I like some of the trippier "SoundCloud" rap I've been hearing - but not much really exciting me. Mind you I'm very much just dipping into rap caviar etc so fuck knows what's really going on...
 

other_life

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dont want to sound like a White Crank Who Has No Idea What's Going On but
i'm so fucking *sick* of neon-cloudy synths and bass paired with treated drum machines and lyrics entirely centered around material gain
the rhythmic 'weirdness' of it compared to straight ahead trap that preceded it, the novelty of that has worn off
something like 2014-2016 young thug does all this and there's actually word play, free association going on. and the *production* and *sequencing* of the barter 6, holy fuck... but i haven't really felt anything of his since thugger girls, either
What the Fuck Is Next. i'm ready for what's next
 

other_life

bioconfused
the soulja boy breakfast club interview was entertaining but watching archived footage of him on instagram live, fuckin yelling and shit talking about "pull up we can shoot it out whatever" is super alienating. spaceghostpurrp's production is pioneering but his entire, pseudo-transgressive, pictures of dead bodies, "im gonna fuck yo puppy", seeming really *threatened* by gay and trans people's presence in music, in the world generally. even more alienating. like physically revolting.
 

other_life

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if you anticipated certain trends in production, were the first to promote your music on the internet in a certain way. and see people adopting it 10 years later. why can't you just lay back satisfied with yr contribution, yr back catalogue, yr money. why do you have to be aggressive, putting it in everybody's faces, like "i deserve a 5% cut!" "i sat back and watched this weak FAGGOT MUSIC the past 2 years"
nobody's about to forget soulja boy or spaceghostpurrp. what the fuck are you so afraid of?
main attrakionz don't act like this. lil b don't act like this. they just keep *making fucking music*. options *slapped*, new squadda b *slaps*. can't say the same about new soulja boy...
 

WebEschatology

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if you anticipated certain trends in production, were the first to promote your music on the internet in a certain way. and see people adopting it 10 years later. why can't you just lay back satisfied with yr contribution, yr back catalogue, yr money. why do you have to be aggressive, putting it in everybody's faces, like "i deserve a 5% cut!" "i sat back and watched this weak FAGGOT MUSIC the past 2 years"
nobody's about to forget soulja boy or spaceghostpurrp. what the fuck are you so afraid of?
main attrakionz don't act like this. lil b don't act like this. they just keep *making fucking music*. options *slapped*, new squadda b *slaps*. can't say the same about new soulja boy...
Because time is a flat circle and even Soulja Boy of all people has turned into a old ass rapper complaning that he isnt getting the respect he deserves just like every other old ass rapper before him.

Spaceghostpurrp im not sure its that people have forgotten its that that fake transgressive thing and the way he carries himself on the internet for some people will be offputting for a guy whose supposed to be a major influence on alot of rappers course people who get him know its ironic but theres many people who wont

side note: i had no idea Squadda B had new music out thats nice to know
 

WebEschatology

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Its funny when you think about it how the aesthetics of horrorcore somehow are still "going" and are being kept alive in these increasingly weird but still really juvenile ways yet nobody outside of the worst kind of nerds fuck with it
 

other_life

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what i was saying is exactly that people haven't and won't forget spaceghostpurrp! i feel more than just his influence on rappers his production styles and aesthetics have had an even wider reaching influence
i sure hope the fake transgressive thing is ironic but like wtf is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGij-jF0P6M
title is somewhat misleading but still
if this *is* ironic what is the point of doing it?
 

WebEschatology

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A way to show that hes "still active" what ever the fuck that means to his significantly smaller fanbase compared to the days of tumblr rap


Its all reminicent of the early 2000s to me when rappers had to have something "shocking" as part of their aesthetic in order to get on (DMX on the flesh is my flesh cover,eminem) land i feel like it would be a crime to ignore how much metal plays a part in this barbed gumbo (purp likes Messhuggah)

Me personally i roll my eyes at this stuff but i find it strange how folks like him ZillaKami and what have you still feel they have to do this in an era where you could argue the whole purpose of shock/transgressive art has been rendered pointless entirely.

Not saying that "dark" art shouldnt exist or that people should spin it to something positive like some people do, but more often than not things that set out to be the most nihilistic thing ever always end up looking silly to me, but for alot of people thats really alluring in a living on the outskirts not following our norms kinda way.

As much as i know people dont want to talk about him or feel hes trash Tech N9ne is a big forebare to all this stuff, also whether we liked him or found him repugnant XXXtentation who was absolutly a child of purp has been canonised now.
 
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WebEschatology

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its a funny old world man talking about influence in rap used to sort of function as a way of figuring out lineages in terms of styles and flows etc and now for me its become another topic made boring to talk about along side rappers top 5s and "the increasing generation gap" amongst rap fans and rappers. Its just been boiled down to a arms race of who got to what first and so many of the things people want to tout as being the first to do feels so arbitrary. It aint helped that sometimes i feel alot of em are digging from the same hole of ideas.

While its cool to regonise the pioneers it just feels like cataloguing in the most boring manner and has the unfortunate implication of showing how easy it is to take a rappers style and reduce it down to select bunch of sounds and beat choices and make them a check list of bullet points to copy rather than a person

Not saying it doesnt play a big role but who influenced what only goes so far.
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
Listening to 'Streets of New York' by Kool G Rap - realising what a depressing third rate KGRap knockoff Necro was, and how depressing it is that KGRap had to record an album with him
 
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