Marvel Films

[luka]

I'm in a state of high excitement. I'm not going to post on dissensus while watching them. That would be disrespectful.

 

[entertainment]

I sometimes think Marvel deliberately makes their villains a bit bland so it doesn't take the spotlight off the heroes.

The shining exception to this rule is Thanos, who has a tragic backstory but is also a genuinely menacing presence.

I think it lowers the stakes in some way that what they're fighting against isn't unredeemably evil. Like it implies that the conflict could be resolved non-violently which is boring.

 

[woops]

he's in GotG isn't he? or is that some other overlord?

 

[Corpsey]

I think it lowers the stakes in some way that what they're fighting against isn't unredeemably evil. Like it implies that the conflict could be resolved non-violently which is boring.

It couldn't really be resolved non-violently in this case though.

 

[entertainment]

superhero movies should be a all-out triumph of violence

 

[entertainment]

It couldn't really be resolved non-violently in this case though.

yes that's right but it almost asks questions about it doesn't it

 

[Corpsey]

I mean, Hitler has a backstory that explains his ideologies but it doesn't mean he could be bargained with.

 

[luka]

he's in GotG isn't he? or is that some other overlord?

I think it is him actually

 

[version]

he's in GotG isn't he? or is that some other overlord?

Yeah, he's the guy in the throne that Ronan speaks to. He pops up briefly in a few films leading up to the big story.

 

[Corpsey]

That's right, I pulled the Hitler card.

 

[Corpsey]

If you want irredeemable evil you want Lord of the Rings. And I don't blame you. I want it too.

 

[entertainment]

I mean, Hitler has a backstory that explains his ideologies but it doesn't mean he could be bargained with.

no that's true I suppose

 

[entertainment]

If you want irredeemable evil you want Lord of the Rings. And I don't blame you. I want it too.

Yes exactly. Sauron was the most compelling villain of my childhood movies.

 

[luka]

If you want irredeemable evil you want Lord of the Rings. And I don't blame you. I want it too.

The advantage marvel have is that they are portraying a slightly spiced up version of our own world with mobile phones and stuff

 

[Corpsey]

Although actually if you look at LOTR Sauron is a much less interesting villain than Gollum.

But he serves a purpose.

 

[version]

One of the strengths of Heath Ledger's Joker was that he didn't have a backstory. The same goes for the xenomorph in the first Alien.

I saw a bunch of people discussing it in a YouTube comment section and it was terrible. They were all arguing about how he was "obviously" ex-special forces or something and clearly went mad in Iraq. Imagine if that was in the film. Awful.

 

[luka]

Iron Man as a comic to me looked particularly 1950s. Amazing Tales! The name itself is archaic.

But theyve made him look super modern and cool.

 

[Dusty]

but there's always your inner @Dusty going, yuck.

I resent that.

 

[version]

 

[luka]