Jordan Peterson thinks it makes sense to compare humans with lobsters

sadmanbarty

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from what i gather the backlash has centred around him taking positions that are deemed transphobic and misogynistic. the emphasis on his more spurious claims arrises from the fact that he presents his ideas as being grounded in science, so when he promotes lifestyle choices that are outlandish and empirically unsound it undermines the source of his intellectual credibility.

the voice doesn't play into it. if anything i'd imagine a burly alpha male in the same position would be deemed more offensive.
 

pattycakes_

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from what i gather the backlash has centred around him taking positions that are deemed transphobic and misogynistic. the emphasis on his more spurious claims arrises from the fact that he presents his ideas as being grounded in science, so when he promotes lifestyle choices that are outlandish and empirically unsound it undermines the source of his intellectual credibility.

the voice doesn't play into it. if anything i'd imagine a burly alpha male in the same position would be deemed more offensive.
That transphobia stuff was blown way out of proportion. If you watch the famous interview with the female English journalist where she tries to pull him up on the misogyny you can see him deal with it pretty well. He is no misogynist from my pov. Quite the opposite. Which lifestyles? I wasn't suggesting a burly man. In my mind it was more of an Obama type character. Charming, stoic, centered. I think that would work better to deliver the message.
 

luka

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I want to start a social engineering thread about social engineering fears and conspiratorial thinking. Agendas. The gay agenda. The trans agenda. All that stuff. Cultural Marxism. Jordan Peterson is about that. His thing about totalitarian states. Communist propaganda.

I feel really grotty and hungover and full of phlegm and snot now though all queasy and horrible so not now. Something to look forward to later.
 

pattycakes_

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Are you conflating all of those things and saying he is about all of those things? The trans agenda? The gay agenda? I would be surprised if he has even said those phrases in any other circumstance than responding to some halfwit trying to trick him into saying something he doesn't really mean. Except he's not easily tricked, so maybe not.
 

luka

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Social engineering which involves overriding, denying, subverting, our 'natural' instincts and behaviours
 

luka

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I think it's worth thinking about what social engineering is, how successful it is, how it happens, if it happens, where 'they' are taking us....
 

pattycakes_

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That's the least interesting aspect of that subject anyway. Much more interesting to think of the matrix style control of reality through education, media, mainstream psychology etc. But it's kinda been done and I dunno if it makes for entertaining reading ala the dissensian way.
 

luka

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That's the least interesting aspect of that subject anyway. Much more interesting to think of the matrix style control of reality through education, media, mainstream psychology etc. But it's kinda been done and I dunno if it makes for entertaining reading ala the dissensian way.
What's the least interesting aspect? I might not be explaining myself properly
 
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