kevinoak

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I have read that if a person who is taking Fiorinal begins to display an irritable attitude when the drug is not accessible, constantly seeks this drug when it is not needed, or if they display behavioral issues that merit concern, this may mean that an addiction is developing.
 
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HMGovt

Bamber Clatscoigne
Calea zacatechichi

a popular herb among people looking to induce hallucinations or try lucid dreaming.

According to anecdotal reports, this dream herb can have a range of effects on your sleep and the quality of your dreams.

Some reported effects on dreams include:

the ability to alter or control your dreams
more vivid, memorable, or longer dreams
an increase in the dreams you experience and remember
a sense of deeper knowledge and understanding of your dreams
In particular, this herb appears to help your dreams follow a more coherent narrative structure, instead of abruptly ending or shifting to new locations. This can make your dreams seem longer and even more realistic.

Anyone ever tried or even heard of it?
 
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Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Heard of it, but only as a super rare ethnobotanical that occasionally gets mentioned on Erowid. Never tried it. Sounds interesting though.
 

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Who loves ya, baby?
"The ideal capitalist subject is no longer the old fat greedy materialist, but the fit spiritual executive who microdoses and eats organic."
 

WashYourHands

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The Drug Science team continue to push research forward with clinical trials for mdma and psilocybin in the UK. David Nutt usually comes across as measured and grounded practitioner, with patient and societal concerns always at the top of priorities.

One of the few podcasts worth checking in on, latest has Ben Sessa on mdma and addiction, but the overall scope includes outright psychedelics. Just avoid the one on cannabis with Joss Stone emoting all over the place about her dying dog. Dogs die, Miss Stone.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Dogs die, Miss Stone.
:ROFLMAO:

I'm about halfway through Pollan's How to Change your Mind and daaaamn, it makes me want to get hold of some more acid. Won't be happening for a while though, as I doubt my girlfriend would appreciate having to be on solo baby duty for 6+ hours. I'm just thankful I managed to get a few sessions in last year.
 

Mellsman

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:ROFLMAO:

I'm about halfway through Pollan's How to Change your Mind and daaaamn, it makes me want to get hold of some more acid. Won't be happening for a while though, as I doubt my girlfriend would appreciate having to be on solo baby duty for 6+ hours. I'm just thankful I managed to get a few sessions in last year.
I loved Pollan's book. Phenomenal advert for shrooms etc.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
It's especially fascinating to read about all the pioneering therapy that was done in the 50s using psychs to treat all sorts of psychiatric disorders such as alcoholism, before they had any associations with the emerging counterculture. I'd heard about it before but I had no idea it was so widespread. Makes Leary's claim in 1960 that he was doing stuff nobody had ever thought to do before seem very disingenuous (since he can't have been unaware of it).

Also makes me think it'd be interesting try a form of therapy involving all-day drinking sessions to see if it can cure people who can't shut the fuck up about DMT for five minutes at a time.
 
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Mellsman

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Of course Matthew (upthread) is right. Pdelics are a shortcut. But sometimes it's good to expedite the benefits of therapy. Alcoholics & dying people spring to mind.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Of course Matthew (upthread) is right. Pdelics are a shortcut.
I'm not convinced of this. I'm not convinced at all that you can get into more or less the same sort of psychic space by meditating or breathing or whatever that you can with psilocybin or LSD.

I mean, I've never tried the non-chemical methods, and I don't doubt you can achieve something, and perhaps something that is in its own way very powerful and profound - but it seems very unlikely to me that it's the same thing as, or directly comparable, to the states you can access while tripping.

Of course, I could be wrong. Perhaps I'm just too lazy and/or cynical.
 
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pattycakes_

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I think for full on deep end tripping it would take a long time to get there even for someone born into a meditating culture and practising from childhood. Also, I don't know if the visuals etc would be the same. I'm going to have a Google now actually. Different hallucinogens have different visual styles, right? Sometimes when you mix them whole new things come out too. I suspect a scientific rationalist would have quite a tough time breaking through, though ;p I highly recommend a 10 day Vipassana course at least one time in your life. That will give you a taste of the possibilities. Just go in there and try to minimize expectations as much as realistically possible. I did it and had some experiences that formed my way of thinking about all that you stand against lol. I was a hopeful sceptic before Vipassana and then it basically let me know that, actually, there are whole other worlds of perception we can tap into. And all the other stuff like trancending the physical. Connection to, and being one with the other 200 people in the room. But not in the cheesy sense. I really want to go back.
 

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Who loves ya, baby?
I found psychedelics helped me understand some of what Pynchon, Burroughs and Deleuze & Guattari were doing and I think it can flow the other way too, so I'd say certain works of art or thought can get you into the same psychic space.
 
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