luka

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And you can see this also across the alt right in tge way history is used. If you read the comments beneath Mongolian throat singing videos or Altaic music videos, a harking back to the great nomadic tribes of central Asia. The thunder of massed hooves and the clouds of disturbed dust.
 

luka

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A lot of this stuff relates directly to racism and a desire for origin stories and a glorious heroic past. Eg when a Christian Europe repelled the Islamic Horde. The gates of Vienna
 

luka

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A mythological era pre-miscegnation and the corruption of the gene stock and correspondingly the virility and purity of the culture.
 

luka

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Len Platt has a good essay on how this tendency is sent up in Finnegans Wake "Hispano-Cathayan-Euxine-Castiliane-Emaratic-Hebridian"
 

sadmanbarty

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that vaporwave aesthetic of making things look like windows 95 is harking back to when computers were quite blocky and clunky. there was a sense of architecture and weight to their interfaces.

also vaporwave's penchant for classical-era statues and busts fits into that pre-industrial yearning.
 

luka

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Vapourwave is definitely relevant to this thread and as I've said before it seems significant in as much as it is the first real attempt to consciously evoke the affects and sensations of a life lived on computers. The hollowness in the stomach. The wired disembodied feel. Hooked up. The weightlessness. The background anxiety. They evoke a time when the illusion was less seamless, a pixellated space, but it only looks naive in retrospect, the illusion was no less absorbing and total then. You still enter inside the space.
 

luka

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Ive alwaysvread the classical busts more as corporate kitsch than pre industrial yearning. Don't sone of them wear shades? It's a very knowing, self aware aesthetic. They know exactly what they're doing.
 

luka

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Yes those are great. Almost trolling given its mostly office workers who have to stare at those hyper real pastures
 

luka

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Like those billboards of tropical beaches they put on the walls of the tube tunnels to taunt commuters.
 

sadmanbarty

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the nonce hunters are remarkably unphysical too. dematerialised vigilantism. not physically reprimanding the pedos but rather humiliating them online.

similar thing with the drill gangs driving through each others areas.

bloodsport but without the blood. online humiliation replaces physical harm.
 

luka

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One of the things I was making prediction tablet do, and I think it's there in prynne to, is pointing out how the language of capital uses the language of nature. Income streams, banks, branches, etc
 

luka

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So you get this multiplication of meaning, and the pastoral diction loses its innocence.
 

sadmanbarty

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Through it’s embrace of Auto-Tune, dancehall has concerned itself with the opposite; imbuing new technology with humanity. This in turn is part of a broader cultural trend to re-humanize our notion of the future. Man-child dancehall artists such as Alkaline and Tommy Lee Sparta appeal to the same desire for an infantilized future as ‘Wall-E’. Robot characters in films like ‘Her’ and ‘Big Hero 6’ are far more warm and personable than ostensibly human characters in films like Clockwork Orange and The Matrix. Where Apple used the dystopian visual language of 1984 and Metropolis in their ‘1984’ advertising campaign, Amazon’s Alexa is portrayed in advertising campaigns as belonging in domestic environments as part of the family. Space exploration as depicted in ‘2001: A Space Odyssey’ was a sanitized visual spectacle, whereas films like The Martian and Gravity are person-centered narratives. All of which reflects our increasingly human relationship with technology in the real world, whether that be conversing with Siri on our smart phones or forming human bonds through social media.

i'd add to this that avatar and mumble rap's brand of pastoral futurism are similarly trying to reconcile notions of the future and nature in an age where our dominent cultural narrative surrounding the future is one of environmental collapse
 
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