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[craner]

It's auspiciously timed to coincide with Laurie Penny's diametrically opposed new work.

 

[luka]

the book is called what men want so it might help you answer some of those questions i suppose

 

[luka]

Ben Watson had her reading from it at the Betsey Trotwood on Friday. I wasn't there. I think I was hungover that day. it's being broadcast on Resonance this Wednesday though.

 

[craner]

Second Dissensus alumnus to take the Allen Lane $$$

 

[craner]

Former best mates too

 

[john eden]

It's auspiciously timed to coincide with Laurie Penny's diametrically opposed new work.

I guess I'll read both, like I did with the Shon Faye and Kathleen Stock ones.

I have never liked Laurie Penny that much, but I guess they may have got better.

 

[craner]

I guess I'll read both, like I did with the Shon Faye and Kathleen Stock ones.

I have never liked Laurie Penny that much, but I guess she may have got better.

Not according to Julie Bindel:

Penny for your thoughts | Julie Bindel | The Critic Magazine

I wanted to like Sexual Revolution: Modern Fascism and the Feminist Fightback, the new book from millennial writer Laurie Penny, mainly because I believe we need as wide a range of feminist theory as…

thecritic.co.uk

 

[shakahislop]

I guess I'll read both, like I did with the Shon Faye and Kathleen Stock ones.

I have never liked Laurie Penny that much, but I guess she may have got better.

used to read them (Laurie Penny) all the time about ten years ago, and then they must have gone off to do something else i guess, coz this is the first time i've heard that name since then.

i used to read k punk, penny red, and leninology. think the first of those is the only one i'd still rate

 

[john eden]

Bindel is at odds with most people I know, tbf.

 

[john eden]

used to read her all the time about ten years ago, and then she must have gone off to do something else i guess, coz this is the first time i've heard that name since then.

i used to read k punk, penny red, and leninology. think the first of those is the only one i'd still rate

They went to America and got on the paywalled blog scene very early iirc.

 

[poetix]

Reads more like Terry Pratchett than anything else.

 

[craner]

Bindel is at odds with most people I know, tbf.

I posted that one just for you, John

 

[IdleRich]

Meanwhile, in legal news:

I guess you can simply report the headline like that without attracting the unwelcome attention of Sue, Grabbit & Runne.

 

[sus]

Not according to Julie Bindel:

Penny for your thoughts | Julie Bindel | The Critic Magazine

I wanted to like Sexual Revolution: Modern Fascism and the Feminist Fightback, the new book from millennial writer Laurie Penny, mainly because I believe we need as wide a range of feminist theory as…

thecritic.co.uk

I love people who think they're living in the Star Wars extended universe defined by ongoing war between the goodies and baddies, on one hand, a set of selfish hypocritical scumbags, on the other, brave courageous men and women standing up for what is right

(This goes for people on both the right and left)

Severed connection with reality, total fantasy insulation, their experience a massive projection of a grade school morality they never developed further

 

[wild greens]

I am perhaps not the target audience for these books and/or critiques of them but fuck me there really is some nonsense knocking about



Are you adrift in a state of nihilism, lads? I didn't know i was till only a few seconds ago

 

[IdleRich]

Bindel is at odds with most people I know, tbf.

I don't think it would be hugely controversial to say xhe is at odds with most people full stop (hey look at that perfect typo, I'm gonna leave it).

 

[sus]

I am perhaps not the target audience for these books and/or critiques of them but fuck me there really is some nonsense knocking about

Are you adrift in a state of nihilism, lads? I didn't know i was till only a few seconds ago

Stop being dense.

 

[wild greens]

I will be whatever i want to be thank you

 

[sus]

I like you wild greens so I assume your intentions are good, your heart pure, etc but

While author is simplifying a lot of stuff (e.g. it is very silly to think this happens overnight one generation to another; there are huge differences historically in class roles and what it means to be "patriarchal"; many men still wield traditionally patriarchal roles etc) the basic thesis is pretty impossible to argue with, that we are gonna have growing pains as we figure out what and how men are supposed to be and do in this world, that when the entire culture and its myths are set up around the idea of man as provider and authority, there will be transitional awkwardness. What kind of models and life narratives to sell them, etc. It's also not a new argument, Douthat made this point quite famously w/r/t to Girls, which is a show where, famously, the men are all huge messes. Compare Adam Driver with Don Draper. Both incredibly disturbed individuals, and Don himself is in the midst of the cultural sea change we're talking about, but one has a sense of archetypes and models to follow (as he makes himself a fiction, as we all do when we live up to myths) and the other doesn't.

 

[sus]

We also have growing pains with girls, the exact same thing is happening except the opposite direction, girls are going, "Perhaps accumulating capital and symbolic status in the capitalist machine is not the highest purpose of my life" and then they start listening to Red Scare