zhao

there are no accidents
Yes dear, I have mates affiliated with the nyege nyege tapes project so don't try and spring your ignorant english brain shtick here, besides I'm not English, let alone white, and unlike you I actually spend hours reading up on culture unlike your histrionic rants that you later delete on medium.

Secondly, this is a highly localised scene with (at best) a middle class following in Europe. Not at all comparable to west african pop, which, whether you like it or not, has a huge following in the African diaspora in the UK.

Don't pretend that you didn't get yer tips about the scene in Uganda and Kenya off RBMA (itself a media giant conglomorate run by a fascist) because it's frankly embarrassing. I didn't and I can proudly say that.

My comments were directed at the OP, not you.

Sounds of Sisso represents authentic street music in Tanzania, and through pure luck was "discovered" by the Nyege Nyege guys, who are my friends. I was at the first Nyege Nyege festival, and did all the graphic design for the label and their first releases. So no, I did not find Sisso through Red Bull.

And I'm not aware of anything that i deleted from Medium? Which article are you referring to?
 

sadmanbarty

Well-known member
TD;LR:

two white blokes who think they're black and communicate in hadiths and a turkish bloke who pretended to be a white nationalist got over excited and made a black bloke uncomfortable. an american jew is upset with a chinese bloke living in berlin because of anti-semitism and the chinese bloke is accusing the turkish bloke of eurocentrism with recourse to his mates making a youtube video of some tanzenian people.

and corpsey thinks the greeks are "disgusting".
 

zhao

there are no accidents
No, I accused the OP, meaning you, not the Turkish guy, of being a provincial ignorant Eurocentric.
 

thirdform

Well-known member
TD;LR:

two white blokes who think they're black and communicate in hadiths and a turkish bloke who pretended to be a white nationalist got over excited and made a black bloke uncomfortable. an american jew is upset with a chinese bloke living in berlin because of anti-semitism and the chinese bloke is accusing the turkish bloke of eurocentrism with recourse to his mates making a youtube video of some tanzenian people.

and corpsey thinks the greeks are "disgusting".


was actually listening to ashiq mahzuni when you wrote this check it luka and otherlife anti-american communist murder music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0c9jxO0gnI
 

thirdform

Well-known member
Zhao isn't smart enough.

it's just transplanting categories formulated in Euro-american academies mainly by the descendents of the nobles who left their newly post-colonial states to carve out an academic nitch. It's all spectacle. Of course there is a eurocentrism that the proletarians, lumpen and semi-proletarians are smashed with every day, but half of this is based on foucauldian discourse analyses which jumps straight from the sanguine to the sexualised body, and thus the (infra)human as constitutive of the extension of abstract labour on a worldwide scale is totally left out of these analyses. Fanon's texts with their shortcomings in the Algerian liberation movement are still much much more worthwhile than the pretty boring Edward Said who could not even understand the racialisation of the dialectic and confined his enquiries to matters of discoursive pedantry and there by unwittingly reduced anti-racism to a matter of parlour games rather than guns, whereas Fanon saw that a mere affirmation of blackness was not enough, not even a blackness that raises its head against white injustices and strives for racial parity. No, Fanon was simultaneously far more humanist and far more barbarian (for all good communists are barbarians) than the leaky ontologies constructed by UC santa cruz students.

It is not merely enough to abolish white supremacy. Even abolishing whiteness as a constitutive category in the political sphere is not nearly sufficient. On the contrary, the only way that black and brown people will come into their full realisation is by obliterating white raciology that defines them as black and brown on the nano level, there by quite literally eliminating white people entirely. This requires a total overhaul of the social production of the species.

Sadly, however, with the prevalence of identity politics, we have forgotten to think in terms of technoscientific imperialism, instead regressing back to a civilised metaphysical nostalgia, and there by falling pray to liberal and democratic illusions, the most bitterest enemies of the compact, monolithic and historically condensed proletarian doctrine spanning centuries.
 
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other_life

bioconfused
On the contrary, the only way that black and brown people will come into their full realisation is by obliterating white raciology that defines them as black and brown on the nano level, there by quite literally eliminating white people entirely. This requires a total overhaul of the social production of the species.

stoked
 

other_life

bioconfused
absolutely means im getting merked. i dont care, ive done so much awful shit to the workers of the world by sheer virtue of my station of birth, by the fact that everything is set up to make me comfortable. it's spiritually impoverishing, i am the last man. rome awaits deliverance by the barbarians
 

zhao

there are no accidents
it's just transplanting categories formulated in Euro-american academies mainly by the descendents of the nobles who left their newly post-colonial states to carve out an academic nitch. It's all spectacle. Of course there is a eurocentrism that the proletarians, lumpen and semi-proletarians are smashed with every day, but half of this is based on foucauldian discourse analyses which jumps straight from the sanguine to the sexualised body, and thus the (infra)human as constitutive of the extension of abstract labour on a worldwide scale is totally left out of these analyses. Fanon's texts with their shortcomings in the Algerian liberation movement are still much much more worthwhile than the pretty boring Edward Said who could not even understand the racialisation of the dialectic and confined his enquiries to matters of discoursive pedantry and there by unwittingly reduced anti-racism to a matter of parlour games rather than guns, whereas Fanon saw that a mere affirmation of blackness was not enough, not even a blackness that raises its head against white injustices and strives for racial parity. No, Fanon was simultaneously far more humanist and far more barbarian (for all good communists are barbarians) than the leaky ontologies constructed by UC santa cruz students.

It is not merely enough to abolish white supremacy. Even abolishing whiteness as a constitutive category in the political sphere is not nearly sufficient. On the contrary, the only way that black and brown people will come into their full realisation is by obliterating white raciology that defines them as black and brown on the nano level, there by quite literally eliminating white people entirely. This requires a total overhaul of the social production of the species.

Sadly, however, with the prevalence of identity politics, we have forgotten to think in terms of technoscientific imperialism, instead regressing back to a civilised metaphysical nostalgia, and there by falling pray to liberal and democratic illusions, the most bitterest enemies of the compact, monolithic and historically condensed proletarian doctrine spanning centuries.

And the fraudulence and failure of multi-culturalism has everything to do with liberal anti-racism which isn't nearly radical enough. What we need is the abolition of race, which is itself racist. On all of that we agree.

"Prey" not "pray" though.
 

thirdform

Well-known member
of course uk drill owes from chopin and yellow mahic orchestra, etc.

This brilliant bit of try hard hilarity nugget has to be excavated though. reminds me of all the Kraftwerk debates in the 00s from people who couldn't think about machines and dialectics, let alone making the distinction between art and science - art holding a supra-political realm (all that nonsense) when it is the mediator between politics and brute force military science, or in between their functioning.

art is a carrier to the transcendent. the transcendent itself is total knowledge of the event, sometimes this knowledge can last for less than a second. and hence our new age art pedallers succumb to lamentable standards of beauty befitting Kant.

We are all artists!
 
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