Albums are a valueless medium. They always have been
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the ae lads never dismissed Amber. in fact if you're really embarrassing you know that they were actually PLAYING tracks from Amber in dj sets around when they supposedly trashed it.
looking at what barty was saying on the first page I don't see why you couldn't just take it to its natural conclusion and say that there's always one fleeting moment in a song thats better than everything else (which is obviously true, at least in pop music), so why not just cut out the rest and leave those 20 seconds. songs are a valueless medium, samples are better.
waiting to hear from craner and crowleyhead about how I completely shattered their strawman conceptions of autechre. I guess it's just taking a while to set in.
also genuinely stand by the idea that pop music works better as samples than as full songs on the most immediate level. (which is why eccojams made the impact it did.) the problem is that if you start thinking about the value of large-scale narrative / organizing structure, the whole 'things should be edited down where quality dips" philosophy starts to seem extremely reductive and limiting in terms of what it allows music to do. albums are valuable when they make use of that level of listening and take you on a journey--consistency helps but it's beside the point.
also genuinely stand by the idea that pop music works better as samples than as full songs on the most immediate level. (which is why eccojams made the impact it did.) the problem is that if you start thinking about the value of large-scale narrative / organizing structure, the whole 'things should be edited down where quality dips" philosophy starts to seem extremely reductive and limiting in terms of what it allows music to do. albums are valuable when they make use of that level of listening and take you on a journey--consistency helps but it's beside the point.
droid
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I made this to win an argument. Justified but still not happy about it.
http://thefear.ie/In the drane of love.mp3
version
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I have a slightly similar feeling toward old grime and dubstep, there's a lot of it that I spent years listening to as grubby radio rips from Rinse or wherever so nowadays there are tunes which just don't sound right without the shoutouts, mistakes and so on from the rip.
yeah definitely know that feeling, though I think it's maybe a different dynamic than just wanting to get to the best part of a pop song, or the best song on an album. more a matter of accepting "imperfections" rather than wanting to get them out of the way.
version
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There's the sample over the full song thing too though, a 50-second Rinse rip can sometimes sound more complete and satisfying than the full track. I've noticed the same thing with people previewing stuff on Insta, I often end up preferring those clips to the actual release.
well this is what i was trying to say to the decadent romantics on here like corpsey craner the best jungle is sound poetry. the problem with techstep is not that it had two few ideas, it's that it didn't rinse the full potential of those ideas. some people are trying to make hardcore continuum beethoven levels of acceptable intelligentsia and it makes me want to puke all over the socks/tights draws of em and their missus.
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yeah my version's less cool but I used to spent a pretty substantial amount of time listening to the previews on itunes. might regret admitting this but I've still listened to a ton of canon albums only in that format lol.
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i feel quite bad for going so hard on corpse these past few days really now. no im not joking. genuinely sad. gonna take some time off the forum.
It's just so hard to extract that kernel of righteous (and not so righteous) anger and have it all out in a music context. i wanna be effete and spiritually comfortable for once but its not possible.
It's just so hard to extract that kernel of righteous (and not so righteous) anger and have it all out in a music context. i wanna be effete and spiritually comfortable for once but its not possible.
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luka
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I keep having this urge to make a thread called corpsey about corpsey. What he's come to represent to different people. The way his passivity causes huge currents of turbulent energy to whirl and eddy about him. The central figure of the forum really. Why and how this has happened is worth investigating.
