'nuum Poll

[sadmanbarty]

"funky in hindsight" or something...

something reminded me of it and i was wondering what people now thought about .... what had emerged as a canon of tunes... how many stood up still... etc

cos from my admittedly unengaged standpoint, it feels like... well, hardly anything has ascended to that sort of pantheonic status of your 'renegade snares' and 'terrorist' and 'some justice' or 'Destiny' or "Oi!' or whatever later classics.

funky's definitely produced timeless classics. things that get everyone going 20 years down the line in the same way wookie's remix of sia does.

given drill's subject matter and gender balance, it's ironic that it owes far more explicitly to funky and bassline than it does to grime.

 

[sadmanbarty]

this is a "calling Barty!" moment innit

most of those tracks you posted use triplets (dividing each beat into three). that tends to be associated with bluesy shuffles and jazz swing.

most music divides each beats into 2 (the hi hats in billie jean) or 4 (the high hats in smoke on the water).

as far as that soca rhythm, that's tresillo (emphasis on every 3 quarter notes) snare drums over 4x4 kick drums.

the appeal of tresillo for me is its sense of angualrity and suspense. the reassuring, resolving 4x4 kick undermines that for me. the funky i like best (other than the stuff that's just good pop) is the stuff that doesn't use 4x4 kicks. that's when its at its most shamanic.

what's interesting about those tunes you posted is that they switch between triplets and tresillo which has a real woozy, distorting effect on your perception of time.

 

[version]

is this turning into grimstrumentals thread 2? bu fuck it.

Statik was the guy who came up with 'grindie', a terrible mixture of grime and indie that people like the NME tried to make into a thing...

When hood meets fringe

Is 'grindie' - a mix of grime and indie - the new sound of British youth or just a gimmick? Sophie Heawood reports.

www.theguardian.com

The term was coined by grime producer Statik, who initially only used it as a joke, but grew to like it. The joke has taken on a life of its own: his Grindie Volume 1 compilation has recently gone from being passed around among downloaders to being distributed to the music press via the publicists used by Oasis.

It splices DaVinChe with Franz Ferdinand; Scorcher with Ladyfuzz; Ghetto and Demon with Clap Your Hands Say Yeah. The 64-track CD opens with a mumbling message from Doherty, followed by members of the Rakes and Test Icicles, all giving a shout-out to grindie and their mate Statik, whose networking powers are staggering. It seems there is nobody in indie he doesn't know.

 

[blissblogger]

most of those tracks you posted use triplets (dividing each beat into three). that tends to be associated with bluesy shuffles and jazz swing.

most music divides each beats into 2 (the hi hats in billie jean) or 4 (the high hats in smoke on the water).

as far as that soca rhythm, that's tresillo (emphasis on every 3 quarter notes) snare drums over 4x4 kick drums.

the appeal of tresillo for me is its sense of angualrity and suspense. the reassuring, resolving 4x4 kick undermines that for me. the funky i like best (other than the stuff that's just good pop) is the stuff that doesn't use 4x4 kicks. that's when its at its most shamanic.

what's interesting about those tunes you posted is that they switch between triplets and tresillo which has a real woozy, distorting effect on your perception of time.

you call him and he come through big time!

(not that I understand a word of it)

the last comment though sort of registers - i think that's what i find body-disconcerting, the switches - the drums slam hard but in a kind of fitful way that confounds me, i find it hard to imagine moving to them even though they are so insistently percussive