thirdform

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and then you have all that UK speedcore which is actually going at 135 bpm multiplied. it's just instead of 4-4 it's 44-44

 

droid

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Yeah US stuff from Detroit, Chi, NYC, NJ and then the occasional anomaly from somewhere like Murkfrom Miami is where its at. They all did so many different things with their beats. You can't reduce that to shades of beige, man. No way. Filtered disco loops, backwards hats that sound like they suck into themselves, mad beats made from several drum machines with different swing settings. Using claps on every kick. Using sidechained reverb on a kick to create an underwater push n pull sensation. The decayed sound of Detroit Beatdown drums. Plastikman - Spastik, 808s and tempo synced delays. There's so many things that can be done. Just saying it's a little bit much to reduce it down like that. Curtis Jones vs Dana Kelley. Shit, cat!

Sure, but this is all from the innovation phase. 30+ years old most of it.
 

luka

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Druid for this to capture the popular imagination you need to dress it up mate. You can't just call it 130 bpm
 

luka

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What is it about 130 that makes to so torpid and equally so inescapable? Give us a grand theory
 

thirdform

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droid

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What is it about 130 that makes to so torpid and equally so inescapable? Give us a grand theory

Its the universal solvent. The vehicle for ultimate homogenisation. The future is a kick drum stamping on the human face at 130 beats per minute - forever.

Evolution has stalled. There's just this gelatinous blob of 4 to the floor that's ponderously spreading, sliding under the doors and through cracks in the walls, consuming all genre and hope of innovation in its path and replacing it with the dull thud of the kick drum.
 

luka

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Its the universal solvent. The vehicle for ultimate homogenisation. The future is a kick drum stamping on the human face at 130 beats per minute - forever.

That's a start! An idiot metronome the whole world can march in lockstep to
 

luka

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Brought into terrible synchronisation by the idiot metronome until they realise they were never individual creatures after all
 

thirdform

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no but droid tell me why calibre is not good. i just think he boring. i like some of the hard stepping renegade hardware. you tell me why calibre not good. you tell me why liquid funk not good, like i said i just think its acceptable but i don't have as much venom as you do for post-97 dnb.
 

thirdform

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I like the hard harsh and dark stuff. in some senses it even preceded the soulquarian vibes, 92-93. i acknowledge jungle is a balance. the hard stuff became a parody of itself. no disagreement from me there. but why didn't you still like the soul dnb after 97? why was that so bad? because you don't like aggy as much as me it seems. so surely you could have been buying creative source into the early 00s?
 

droid

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Like fascism, we thought it had been banished, or at least limited in its growth - but then it re-emerged from its stronghold in Berlin, mutated into an unspeakably virulent plague in the US and crept into the tasteful parlours and boudoirs of the UK.
 
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