Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I'm reading a life of Shakespeare by Antony Burgess, and Burgess claims that in Elizabethan times most people didn't drink water (which wasn't safe to drink), and hydrated themselves with booze instead. People drank ale at breakfast, and more or less everyone was at least mildly tipsy at all times.


Can't help but wonder what effect this had on their society and their creative arts.
 

martin

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Got smashed on a bottle of Havana Club last night and went to bed at 4am. Just had a chat with my boss (midday) and realised half-way through I still sound pissed.
 

luka

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I'm reading a life of Shakespeare by Antony Burgess, and Burgess claims that in Elizabethan times most people didn't drink water (which wasn't safe to drink), and hydrated themselves with booze instead. People drank ale at breakfast, and more or less everyone was at least mildly tipsy at all times.


Can't help but wonder what effect this had on their society and their creative arts.

luka

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On the Winchester thread I was talking about how the medieval era was a time of perpetual drunkeness. Ruddy cheeked Friars with distended bellies, Chaucer making fart jokes, and churches are full of little details like that. The bawdy. It's very human, very warm. Falstaff.

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IdleRich

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I'm reading a life of Shakespeare by Antony Burgess, and Burgess claims that in Elizabethan times most people didn't drink water (which wasn't safe to drink), and hydrated themselves with booze instead. People drank ale at breakfast, and more or less everyone was at least mildly tipsy at all times.


Can't help but wonder what effect this had on their society and their creative arts.
Yes also when coffee came along and people started drinking it a lot - suddenly people went from being half cut all the time to hopped up on caffeine, so change was doubly noticeable.
 

woops

is not like other people
There are many neurons all throughout the sphincter and around the gut in general did you know. The theory is that your arse is a shame filled and traumatised place because it gets constantly put down and belittled but its so useful and also rich in serotonin receptors. Once it gets a mere sniff on an e tab it sucks it all up greedily, wee hungry joy starved arsehole cant believe its luck but also distributes generally thereafter
pretty soon it wants to be kissed like any other mouth
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Elizabethan England sounds like a horrible place — plagues, poo in the streets, public executions. But it was also a time of great creativity and confidence in this country and I'm wondering if what this country really needs is for everybody (children included) to be at least 1 pint deep by 10am every morning.
 

luka

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Went to the pub last night. Didn't get absolutely hammered cos they make you go home to bed at 10. Didn't like having to leave cold food in front of me all night. I don't like looking at food when I'm trying to drink. Drinking and eating should be kept separate. Two distinct activities.
 

luka

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I'm going to drink a bottle of bourbon now. Or maybe not all of it. See how we go.
 

martin

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Went to the pub last night. Didn't get absolutely hammered cos they make you go home to bed at 10. Didn't like having to leave cold food in front of me all night. I don't like looking at food when I'm trying to drink. Drinking and eating should be kept separate. Two distinct activities.
I agree. Americans seem to like combining the two, for some reason. "You're British, you must love beer...let's go to the Ugly Dog" - and then, 6pm, they've ordered a load of onion rings or chilli and you can't put your drink down.

I was drinking in a pub in Old Street years ago and the person I was with said "Hang on," and went out...I thought he'd gone to buy fags...and he came back into the pub with a chicken doner! I was like, "What the fuck are you doing, it's 9.50!" Kebabs are for after the pubs shut - eating them with a pint's just wrong. I think the only exception's Monster Munch.

Drinking pale ale tonight but I don't think it's going to lead to intoxication.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Played squash today... my partner/opponent was cooking dinner for me afterwards and he had suggested I buy the Armenian ak47 brandy from the Russian shop which is right next to the squash place. It's probably good. Georgia claim to be the first country to have made wine and (probably, I dunno, this bit is a guess) Armenia claim to be the first to have changed wine into brandy. But I was driving so settled for several beers with dinner.. got home and phone girlfriend was into her second bottle of wine so I'm helping her with that. Minor intoxication results - enough to post a lot on dissensus.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
There's a shop near where I live that's a bit like that, only with them it's all about shishas/bongs. Really huge, elaborate, outrageously tacky ones, shaped like human skulls, AK-47's, all sorts of shit. A lot of them are covered in little glittery glass "diamonds". But it's not actually dedicated just to those things, because it's also an otherwise normal convenience shop/newsagent's, with fags, mags, sweets, soft drinks and whatnot. I might get a photo next time I walk past it.
 
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