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On The Lighthouse, in the scenes in which his character is meant to be drunk on kerosene (there are quite a few of them), he was “basically unconscious the whole time. It was crazy. I spent so much time making myself throw up. Pissing my pants. It’s the most revolting thing. I don’t know, maybe it’s really annoying.”

It’s hard not to speculate that yes, it might be really annoying. “There’s a scene,” Pattinson remembers, “where Willem’s kind of sleeping on me and we’re really, really drunk and I felt like we’re completely lost in the scene and I’m sitting there trying to make myself gag and Robert [Eggers] told me off because Willem’s looking at him going: ‘If he throws up on me, I’m leaving the set.’ I had absolutely no idea this whole drama was unfolding.”

In some ways, Pattinson concedes, all this acting out is a reaction to his terrifying early super-fame.
https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a29300396/robert-pattinson-willem-dafoe-interview/
 

rubberdingyrapids

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irishman is a bit like a netflix mini series in one go, so no dramatic peaks, though very easy to watch. pesci doesnt do much, though its nice to see him in a big film again, deniro looks bored. it does get good in the last hour when we finally see everyone in the present day, but otherwise its the kind of thing MS could do in his sleep - there was a point i thought it might have something to say about unionisation, seeing as its kind of about jimmy hoffa. pacino is excellent though, in a way i didnt think he could still be, and there is a lingering sadness to the whole thing. the best thing is really seeing these guys who i and i assume most ppl here grew up watching all together again. maybe thats why people are responding to it so emotionally.

the next MS film looks much more interesting. its based on this book:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/208562/killers-of-the-flower-moon-by-david-grann/
 
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IdleRich

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Earlier this year my girlfriend and I came back from or woke up after a heavy night out and basically ground to a halt in front of the telly with some crisps and some beers. It was one of those days where we had a bit of a residual glow and were in a slightly odd, vulnerable but receptive state. Didn't really know what to watch but there was a pile of dvds by the box that this guy had burned for me, they all had foreign names and they were pretty much unrecognisable to me, just meaningless strings of letters. To be honest it felt as though most of them might be a bit too challenging right now, too much on that vibe of worthy art-films that we'd be pleased to tell people we had seen, but which might demand a little more in the way of concentration and engagement than we were able to give just at this moment... but neither of us said that, maybe we were too strung out to even do that. So the long and short of it was that we stuck in Kaili Blues - a simple name written in black pen on an otherwise blank cd - and wondered where, if anywhere, it would take us. Probably nowhere at all we thought... but we were very wrong. To this day I can't quite say if it was the film or our mood, in fact I have no doubt that ultimately it was the two together in perfect sync that made the thing affect both of us so profoundly. I'm fairly sure I've written about the film itself before here but, as a reminder, afterwards She Who Must Be Obeyed immediately said that it reminded her strongly of Tarkovsky... now Tarkovsky's basically my favourite director and that of half the world too so of course he's often imitated, and every hipster with a camera who makes a slow (and no doubt boring) movie cites his work as their main influence, rather unwisely I tend to feel cos nine times out of ten the films are nothing like his, and even those very few that are suffer greatly in comparison.
Kaili Blues is indeed one of those films with very little in the way of plot, a sumptuous mish mash of lush green forests and neglected farm equipment rusting in front of stunning mountain backdrops... a collection of zones where nothing very much happens, and of course it happens very slowly. And it's magical.
Anyway, the point is that this guy who made that film is called Bi Gan, this is what it says on wikipedia

During his college years, Bi watched Andrei Tarkovsky's Stalker, later stating in an interview, "Cinema can be different [from mainstream films]; you can make what you like. What I had seen up to that point were mainly Hollywood films. What I was taught was pretty boring."[6] Because of this particular film, he made up his mind to pursue filmmaking. "Before that, my parents and my relatives thought I would become jobless after graduation since I didn't want to do anything.
Anyway, this is in this thread cos he's got a new one out and the reviews are saying it's amazing. Word on the street is that it might even be better than the new killer from Guy Ritchie - basically I'm totally wet-tipped with anticipation. One slight catch though, the film is in 3d and, as far as I can gather, the majority of 3d cinemas here tend to be used to show blockbusters, I'm actually getting worried about whether I will be fully able to catch it as Bi intended. Something that is keeping me tossing and turning at night, waking up in sweat covered sheets saying "No, noooooo, please no".
 
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IdleRich

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Wow - Belem Tower! Honestly this is crazy to me cos although I watched a load of his films when I was younger it was before I moved to Portugal and so I didn't know those locations, and when I moved here it was much later and I didn't make the connection. Looks really interesting, to me at least.
 

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The casts Wes Anderson gets these days are absolutely ridiculous.

Wes Anderson's 'The French Dispatch' - Starring Saoirse Ronan, Timothée Chalamet, Willem Dafoe, Tilda Swinton, Bill Murray, Adrien Brody, Benicio Del Toro, Léa Seydoux, Jason Schwartzman, Owen Wilson, Christoph Waltz, Kate Winslet, Frances McDormand, Jeffrey Wright, & Henry Winkler.
 

Leo

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The casts Wes Anderson gets these days are absolutely ridiculous.

Wes Anderson's 'The French Dispatch' - Starring Saoirse Ronan, Timothée Chalamet, Willem Dafoe, Tilda Swinton, Bill Murray, Adrien Brody, Benicio Del Toro, Léa Seydoux, Jason Schwartzman, Owen Wilson, Christoph Waltz, Kate Winslet, Frances McDormand, Jeffrey Wright, & Henry Winkler.
twee alert.
 

Corpsey

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I don't like a lot of his films but I did really like grand Budapest hotel. It was shallow nonsense, but I found it very funny, very well paced, in it's own way very elegant.
 

version

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Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums are his best, imo. Although I hated the latter at first. The worst I've seen is Moonrise Kingdom which is sickeningly twee.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
As a general rule Wes Anderson is one of my least favourite directors... somehow the Budapest Hotel one did get under my defences though. I'm a sucker for the idea of being part of a European elite travelling around and staying in hotels with loads of baggage and bellboys and stuff.
I hate Bill Murray though, not sure I can stomach another Anderson/Murray match-up, I hate it already basically.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Why did everyone start raving about Bill Murray suddenly? I actually went through his whole back catalogue to remind myself and see if I could understand why he suddenly enjoyed this special status and basically all his films are totally shit (well, obviously there is the odd exception but I reckon his hit rate is way below average).
 

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Who loves ya, baby?
As a general rule Wes Anderson is one of my least favourite directors... somehow the Budapest Hotel one did get under my defences though. I'm a sucker for the idea of being part of a European elite travelling around and staying in hotels with loads of baggage and bellboys and stuff.
I hate Bill Murray though, not sure I can stomach another Anderson/Murray match-up, I hate it already basically.
The biggest issue for me with that one was the dicking around with the aspect ratio. It brought nothing to the film and just meant the majority of it felt like watching something someone had filmed under their jacket in the cinema.
 

luka

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Why did everyone start raving about Bill Murray suddenly? I actually went through his whole back catalogue to remind myself and see if I could understand why he suddenly enjoyed this special status and basically all his films are totally shit (well, obviously there is the odd exception but I reckon his hit rate is way below average).
Yeah and apart from that he seems genuinely unpleasant. Actively nasty and cynical and vain.
 
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