Autechre

[shiels]

also shiney and queasy are mutually exclusive.

are they? Shiny is reflection of light and queasy is feeling sick. Too much glitz and glamour and gawdiness and gloss makes me queasy. Disgust response, bursting spots, gunge, spiders eggs... there’s sex in there too, swells and pops and curves. This is what bipp is about, sophie told me

 

[catalog]

its hard though cos all social interaction is drunkeness

I found this aspect very difficult to deal with for the first few months. Meeting someone in the pub and you have to get a fentimans dandelion and burdock. Really hard. Also when there's a gang of people all on it and you are sober, and you have to hear them for 3 hours.

I started going running at first and then found the white hotel. Was absolutely brilliant to be in a place stone cold sober, chewing a licorice stick and munching almonds, while everyone else was off their tits. Cos they had all the smoke, no light at all, and the music could be focused upon and was brilliant. It was like being on drugs, it was that odd for me.

So both activities done entirely alone (I did go to the club with mates a few times but was always best on my own) because like you say, most social interaction involves drinking. It's actually astounding if you are not drinking to see how many places do booze. I started to think it was a government conspiracy.

 

[luka]

in my periods of abstinence it does feel like a conspiracy cos everywhere you look theres something trying to entice you to drink

 

[version]

Sugar's like that too. It's like trying not to drink whilst someone's hidden booze in basically every item of food you could possibly eat.

 

[yyaldrin]

The honest truth is that I pissed myself on our honeymoon and it ruined the whole day a bit, my wife had a serious chat with me. I tried limiting at first but it didn't work. So I went for total abstinence, that's what works for me, all or nothing.

She helped for about the first 3 months and after that it's a lot easier, cos you start to feel quite good and can sleep better.

Doing a month is easy, but 3 is very hard.

You have to start finding other activities like sport or whatever.

After 6 months you wonder why you ever drank at all. I would also stay out of pubs, much as I loved the vibe, cos that's where its very tough, especially when people want to drink bully you.


It's getting a bit hard again now, cos I feel like I could control it.

I really wanted a beer just before Christmas when I was hanging out with some alcoholics and I settled for a spliff and a fag, I'm glad I didn't have any booze. Its the worst cos its so subtle.

did you take a shit in the kettle?

 

[woops]

in my periods of abstinence it does feel like a conspiracy cos everywhere you look theres something trying to entice you to drink

why oh why does this have to be a bad thing
friends with open arms drawing you closer

 

[shiels]

@shiels

the best bubblegum is also terrifyingly naively soulful. Sophie is too self aware, too parodic.

the original mix is better tird. ca you please do a mix of this stuff

 

[shiels]

and you mind i call you tird from now on?

 

[thirdform]

are they? Shiny is reflection of light and queasy is feeling sick. Too much glitz and glamour and gawdiness and gloss makes me queasy. Disgust response, bursting spots, gunge, spiders eggs... there’s sex in there too, swells and pops and curves. This is what bipp is about, sophie told me

yeah, shine is a reflection of polish. You can polish a turd in glitter, but it no longer acts as faecal matter.

 

[thirdform]

the original mix is better tird. ca you please do a mix of this stuff

no.

problem with zoomer musical generation is they have no ideological wars to fight in public. like look yes we all love a cheesy eurodance classic but we can't play it in our dj sets in public, we have to present an impregnable ruffneck image to the drunk punters.
Like seriously. Do you think a hardcore gangsta Kurdish occult jihadist like me is going to play capella in their sets? Have a word with yourselves! Imagine how white people would think I'm a cute cuddly teddybear, vomit.

 

[thirdform]

The disgust at glitz is generally (though not exclusively) a downwardly mobile middle class punk response. A lot of junglists were into some of the most shiniest plastic synthetic rnb. In that case it worked though because jam and lewis didn't pretend to be parodic. They were fully plastic, in keeping with the nouveau rich and sophisticated generation. They were plastically sincere, inasmuch as plasticity became the reflection of the 80s. PC music is generally an ironic cultural studies project. We hold this plastic shit in contempt inasmuch as we are above it and the stupid plebs ain't worked it out, but that's why we're going to double down onto it and develop characters around it. It's scritti pollitti for neoliberals.

@blissblogger can probably tell you how punk was more crossclass than being overtly proletarian, and in fact, you were more likely to see working class youth at soul all dayers down south or clubbing up north. Mod being the modernist continuum.

 

[shiels]

I love you third

 

[wektor]

" ... emphasising the original’s latin freestyle pop essence with sizzling hi-hat trills and that ultra vocal hook, but here deployed slower and with a rugged assymetry - more goretex than latex? Quite honestly it’s the best thing we’ve heard from Autechre in ages - properly forward, blunted business with a squashed Gescom vibe that pushes a lot of our buttons all at once... "

-- Boomkat.

tbh could see that its goretex, same as the wave of zomby's roller chune being in an acronym ad, I've got the impression that techbros have been going brutalism/tekno/asymmetric for a while now

I'm glad the bipp rmx pissed off some of the decon club heads though, also glad they went somewhere else instead of remixing things into the same sort of overstimulatingly unfolding polyrhythms that they've been delivering in large amounts for the past while.
still when it comes to breaky stuff I think their 12h long mixlr thing from a couple years ago was more fun to listen to

 

[version]

 

[wektor]

 

[boxedjoy]

After 6 months you wonder why you ever drank at all. I would also stay out of pubs, much as I loved the vibe, cos that's where its very tough, especially when people want to drink bully you.

I did six months sober when I was 22 and it changed my life. I was going out with people I didn't have much in common, to do things I didn't particularly want to do, spending money begrudgingly and wasting time I would never get back. When I was sober I realised that those activities and those social relationships were fuelled by booze and actually I didn't enjoy them at all, and when I stopped taking part in shit pubs/nightclubs/parties and started doing my own thing I was much happier.

I drink now and I don't have any intentions to give it up but it really gave me clarity on what I wanted from my life. I didn't really miss it but I also didn't really not miss it so I didn't feel bad about starting back up on the booze. I've gone a few months here and there without a drink - especially lately with the pandemic etc - and I know that I can do fine with or without it, which is something I feel very lucky to be able to say about my drinking habits.

anyway Autechre done a remixxxxxx

 

[catalog]

One of the things that kept me going was a guy who is more of a friend of my wife, but quite a caner, said to me that he much preferred me as a sober person than when drinking.

 

[luka]

That would help. People often tell me I should just get back on the pish. And then you think what's the fucking point then

 

[catalog]

None of my very close friends said anything, or tried to persuade me back into drinking. Mostly they were impressed and they'd talk about how they wanted to quite as well, repeated ad nauseum as they got more and more wrecked

 

[yyaldrin]

One of the things that kept me going was a guy who is more of a friend of my wife, but quite a caner, said to me that he much preferred me as a sober person than when drinking.

how would you describe yourself as a drunk person?