chava

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In a class war you can argue it from the bosses’ perspective or you can argue it from the perspective of the ordinary worker, yeah.

James Damore was an ordinary worker who got fired for doing what his bosses told him, but that they didn't like the answer to
 

muser

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Wiley can't be cancelled here dissensus will implode. He's having a episode which he's probably not going to be able to come back from now which is really sad, he was even bringing up the underage sex allegations out of nowhere, going full supernova.
 

Leo

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the world always seems to forgive Kanye for highly questionable statements, could there be similar hope for Wiley?
 

luka

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It's a response worthy of 1960s China and the grovelling apologies forced upon the victims of Mao's Cultural Revolution. But that would be appropriate, because a cultural revolution is exactly what is taking place in today's America, where the woke mob has surrounded the citadels of democracy – newspapers, magazines, television stations and, of course, universities.

Dissenters live in fear. Serious debate is all but silenced
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Trans men should feel able to get a smear test.

Making them feel unwelcome seems like a weird hill to die on.

Implying that women who have had hysterectomies are somehow less womanly also seems like a weird hill to die on.

No doubt there is a shitstorm about this on Twitter with idiots on every side, which I won’t read.
 

luka

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it's essential to have a quick skim of the mail etc so you understand what people are being fed and how the sense of a cultural revolution is being fostered.
 

luka

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the mail mob operate by picking up on eg nursery school teacher bans baa baa black sheep political correctness gone mad (i've said this before i know, but bears repeating) at the far end of the curve and treat these isolated incidents of hysteria as representative and use them to smear all progressive thought.
 

luka

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the pictures of those hilarious S1Ws marching out of step through Brixton in paramilitary gear is being used in the same way. 'terrifying' apparently.
 

luka

Well-known member
but even if it isn't it might as well be. there will always be hysterical marginal expressions of any of these ideas and tendencies. things will be misunderstood by the naive and the foolish and the unwell and misused by the malevolent and resentful and etc etc etc
 

luka

Well-known member
and the sleight of hand is to use those to mischaracterise the movement and obscure how it typically operates
 

Benny Bunter

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The cervix thing kicked off because of this (and it's hardly an isolated example)
It's been pointed out that you never see 'individuals with a prostrate' in this supposedly inclusive language.
 

luka

Well-known member
the real sharp end of cancel culture is the trans stuff. the stakes are high for all parties operating in good faith but also it's a golden opportunity for anyone looking for a wedge issue to divide progressives.
 

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
the mail mob operate by picking up on eg nursery school teacher bans baa baa black sheep political correctness gone mad (i've said this before i know, but bears repeating) at the far end of the curve and treat these isolated incidents of hysteria as representative and use them to smear all progressive thought.
The flipside of this is feminists being accused of being right wing when they criticise leftist men
 

john eden

male pale and stale
“Individuals with a prostrate” is fine and would be more inclusive for transwomen.

Perhaps the reason why this hasn’t been seen so much is that in the UK at least smear tests are massively more common than tests for prostrate cancer.

I am not sure what the deal is in the US but in Austria there are mandatory tests for prostrate cancer over the age of 50.

When I asked my Doctor about this they said it wasn’t something we did here because of the high level of false positives.

of course this isn’t the case for smear tests which are recommended regularly for people with a cervix.
 
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