Psychotopography

[version]

How long ago was that? It's been a mess as long as I've been aware of it.

 

[constant escape]

never have the slightest idea what you mean by the word 'ideology'

If you mean me, I tend to reduce that word down to meaning "value system / belief system" in the broadest sense.

Its a word that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

 

[constant escape]

I don't know enough about him, beyond cursory stuff about NRx.

Here is the book he's working on: https://graymirror.substack.com/

You can read the first short section there, the rest is being released at whatever rate.

Heard him on a couple podcasts, totally didn't fit my low-resolution expectations. Seems to be a critical figure in this discussion.

 

[luka]

How long ago was that? It's been a mess as long as I've been aware of it.

 

[version]

Here is the book he's working on: https://graymirror.substack.com/

Gray Mirror Of The Nihilist Prince

Read the founding textbook of the next regime - before it comes out.

😂

 

[version]

luka's so right about these guys and the Warhammer/RPG stuff.

 

[constant escape]

Is it a trend?

 

[luka]

it's all warhammer/RPGs. it's all worldbuilding. it's all moving units over the game space. it's all 19th century race science by way of elves, orcs and barabarians.

 

[luka]

obviously i have to laugh at his risible prose and self-dramatisation but looking over this he has some things right eg

"The gist of it is that our body spontaneously generates mythology. It is my suspicion that there is a literal body model in our cognitive apparatus (after all Jung said at its core the soul is image based) and we couple ourselves to that model body through memory, language, culture, experience.


Part of that coupling is the modeling of spatial relations of our body to the world and another big purpose of this cognitive double is to be a sort of scout or envoy whomstve job it is to be cast out into space with the sole/soul purpose of exploring the landscape, looking for resources, friends, foes, dangers and areas/communities of respite. That is to say our very being casts a projection of an archetypal body (which is perhaps hermaphroditic) out into space and without this relation we could not know ahead of time where to stand or orient to err on the side of survival."

 

[constant escape]

I was really scrambled listening to the guy. He said how he took the red pill concept from The Matrix, and the white supremacists took it from him. He referred to core trump supporters as "MAGAtards", which alone is enough to confound normative political registers these days. He talked about endorsing Obama twice, said he endorsed Sanders, and that he was planning on voting for Biden - anyway, if he is a cryptofascist, then cryptofascism is way better at being crypto than almost anyone thinks. Because he didn't seem disingenuous.

He did get into a sort of... apologism for

I haven't picked up on RPG stuff, but Yarvin made several mentions/dismissals about radical leftists "LARPing" and whatnot, but I suppose that is a term that can more or less be distributed evenly these days. Also, don't want to put words in anyone's mouth.

A lot of the stuff psychotopography/______topography would be about is identifying the kinds of currents that carry people from one ideology to another, stripping ideologies apart and recombining them - stuff that has undoubtedly been mulled over and ruminated into a pulp. But maybe it hasn't been approached in a certain way, and maybe if it is combined with a few other techniques, it may allow for some interesting possibilities. The sigil point that was made is of interest, because I hadn't really framed it all in a context of magick.

But yeah, unplaceables like Yarvin are fascinating to me, in this kind of framework at least. Outstanding case studies.

 

[luka]

that body-model is what i call the sugar-glider.

 

[luka]

and it is absolutely hermaphroditic

 

[constant escape]

obviously i have to laugh at his risible prose and self-dramatisation but looking over this he has some things right eg

"The gist of it is that our body spontaneously generates mythology. It is my suspicion that there is a literal body model in our cognitive apparatus (after all Jung said at its core the soul is image based) and we couple ourselves to that model body through memory, language, culture, experience.


Part of that coupling is the modeling of spatial relations of our body to the world and another big purpose of this cognitive double is to be a sort of scout or envoy whomstve job it is to be cast out into space with the sole/soul purpose of exploring the landscape, looking for resources, friends, foes, dangers and areas/communities of respite. That is to say our very being casts a projection of an archetypal body (which is perhaps hermaphroditic) out into space and without this relation we could not know ahead of time where to stand or orient to err on the side of survival."

Visually, it reminds me a bit of Donnie Darko, but I don't wanna reduce the nuance out of the mix.

 

[luka]

i have seen Donnie Darko but it made so little impression on me that I can't remember a single image from it. It's left no trace whatsoever.

 

[constant escape]

I certainly don't feel obliged to defend it.

 

[luka]

what needs to be identified and analysed is what underlies ideology. the more basic pre-verbal orientations that ideology is built upon and articulates

 

[constant escape]

I've got my eyes on what underpins it layers down, but there still seem to layers that aren't evident.

My point of departure for your quest there is something like this: how the species (as a swarm-intelligence) subsists by hedging its bets by means of variation, which amounts, in the swarm, to some distribution/difference of belief. It's almost like, as intelligence reaches a human stage and then a society stage, it is entering a territory where it's just, again, vastly hedging its bets. And the natural selection of ideology would be something like the evolution of the world historical spirit.

Again, there still seems to be a lot between that and what we feel as ideology/belief/conviction.

And the monumentally confusing thing is: capitalism is becoming increasingly evident as being true to cosmic-intelligence / intelligence-matter

 

[version]

A lot of the stuff psychotopography/______topography would be about is identifying the kinds of currents that carry people from one ideology to another, stripping ideologies apart and recombining them - stuff that has undoubtedly been mulled over and ruminated into a pulp. But maybe it hasn't been approached in a certain way, and maybe if it is combined with a few other techniques, it may allow for some interesting possibilities. The sigil point that was made is of interest, because I hadn't really framed it all in a context of magick.

I looked into what luka was saying last night about Bannon claiming politics is downstream of culture and apparently he got it from Andrew Breitbart,

Breitbart perceives himself as a new-media David out to slay old-media Goliaths. As he sees it, the left exercises its power not via mastery of the issues but through control of the entertainment industry, print and television journalism and government agencies that set social policy. “Politics,” he often says, “is downstream from culture. I want to change the cultural narrative.” Thus the Big sites devote their energy less to trying to influence the legislative process in Washington than to attacking the institutions and people Breitbart believes dictate the American conversation.

TIME's TV/media critic Jim Poniewozik on the death of Andrew Breitbart

Breitbart was one of journalism and politics' most abrasive, zealous brawlers, willing to use his websites for political ends. As he once told TIME: "I liked being hated more than I liked being liked."

entertainment.time.com

 

[constant escape]

What are the basics of Breitbart? Another thing I have no understanding of.

Bannon is interesting though. Another case of my low-resolution image not lining up at all.

 

[constant escape]

Okay, so not far removed from what I imagined.

Thanks.