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Weirdly enough Ghost Ship was on last night so I watched it. It's basically Event Horizon but at sea, not too bad I guess.
I fucking love Event Horizon. They're trying to restore the infamous lost footage atm, but I dunno that it really needs it.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I fucking love Event Horizon. They're trying to restore the infamous lost footage atm, but I dunno that it really needs it.
I think we discussed it before. Classic. This is basically the same in that a salvage crew discover a legendary lost wreck and try to tow it in but instead get killed one by one by ghosts. And there is a kind of explanation sort of makes sense.
 

linebaugh

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I enjoyed the language, the way they spoke, the way it flowed. I'm not sure how much was there. But just that made it instantly better than Midsommar (which was a totally misguided embarrassment for all concerned) and also The Witch and Hereditary for that matter.
I thought the dialogue and acting in the witch were awesome. Particularly the child actors- the exorcism scene shook me, that kid was portraying emotions you feel kids shouldn't have any idea about, and the use of an old John Winthrop decree as the dialogue was real slick.

I also think there's alot to be pulled from the lighthouse. The film set out to be a meaning maker of sorts, appropriately lent to a whole multiplicity of interpretations. You throw something at it and something gets tossed right back. Think the way it wielded myth brings about that effect
 

catalog

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I enjoyed the language, the way they spoke, the way it flowed. I'm not sure how much was there. But just that made it instantly better than Midsommar (which was a totally misguided embarrassment for all concerned) and also The Witch and Hereditary for that matter.
I thought midsommar was brilliant even though I was watching a really dodgy cam copy and I sort of stopped watching the last half hour.
Yeah maybe I need to rewatch the lighthouse, I was watching on ipad and we had just watched a really good film before, the chantal akerman one
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I just wanted more from The Witch. I feel that environment is so creepy straight off, they could have made something really quite chilling. But I think it all happened too fast, there was no tension.
 

linebaugh

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I just wanted more from The Witch. I feel that environment is so creepy straight off, they could have made something really quite chilling. But I think it all happened too fast, there was no tension.
I had the exact opposite feeling lol. So much god damn tension. And then right at the climax, right before the goat man comes, theres just a minute straight of dead silence, and your just sitting there in full awareness of how goddamn tense you are and you hold your breath because you too don,t want to make a sound, brilliant.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed The Lighthouse (which to me is the main thing)... I'm not sure it was as brainy as it thought. I mean there was a gay subtext but so what, the lighthouse is phallic so what, there were all these kinds of links to prometheus and other myths but... I'm not sure that just saying "I've read some classics" adds much to a film unless it links in to something and takes it further. Maybe it did and I missed it, but I saw the film as a lot of half-explored ideas that never quite landed... but also so what.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I had the exact opposite feeling lol. So much god damn tension. And then right at the climax, right before the goat man comes, theres just a minute straight of dead silence, and your just sitting there in full awareness of how goddamn tense you are and you hold your breath because you too don,t want to make a sound, brilliant.
Ah you're making it sound good now. I forget the details. I didn't hate it but I wanted more.
 

linebaugh

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Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed The Lighthouse (which to me is the main thing)... I'm not sure it was as brainy as it thought. I mean there was a gay subtext but so what, the lighthouse is phallic so what, there were all these kinds of links to prometheus and other myths but... I'm not sure that just saying "I've read some classics" adds much to a film unless it links in to something and takes it further. Maybe it did and I missed it, but I saw the film as a lot of half-explored ideas that never quite landed... but also so what.
I think the gay subtext, which may be more appropriately called a masculinity subtext, was just the point of conjunction the movie used to demonstrate how cosmic/mythic hierarchies and real world/ economic, societal hierarchies are top down forces being informed by and reflexively forming bottom up forces of psychic structure to just really fuck up the subject...leave him awash in the waves maybe... Something something myth making and subject making are the same thing. I think the film is about belief more than anything.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I think the gay subtext, which may be more appropriately called a masculinity subtext, was just the point of conjunction the movie used to demonstrate how cosmic/mythic hierarchies and real world/ economic, societal hierarchies are top down forces being informed by and reflexively forming bottom up forces of psychic structure to just really fuck up the subject...leave him awash in the waves maybe... Something something myth making and subject making are the same thing. I think the film is about belief more than anything.
I think there is a gay thing... also a father son thing.... also a straight-forward masculinity thing - I'm not sure one precludes the other.
 

linebaugh

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I think there is a gay thing... also a father son thing.... also a straight-forward masculinity thing - I'm not sure one precludes the other.
I guess I was just using masculinity to stand in for 'male concerns,' your right
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Originally apparently there was a scene with RP's erect penis but the money men demanded it be cut out. You had the lighthouse anyway I guess...
 
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