WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Missed a few. The Residents, Devo, Zappa, Dr John and The Fall. And electro. Got to get burrowing like a terrier into a few piles of records and dose accordingly.

Mid-teenage years 86-88, the sheer range of music available spoiled you. A diversity of styles and moods, virtual record pools, ie someone had a record you liked, so you’d give them a tape and the recording would be solid. You couldn’t get close to buying ‘everything‘, so taping was a prerequisite. C90’s ruled for a wee while.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
It can get a bit skewiff. There are so many ‘how did you forget....’ instances, thankfully the forum allows post saving. ‘86-88 are among the most difficult years to get on top of. The range of tunes, personal events etc. Even though their music appeared as rumours on the musical horizon a few years previously, the genius of artists such as Zappa, Beefheart and Fela Kuti really became apparent and appreciated around this age. CV were a contemporary regional explosion compared to the music you were inheriting from previous eras and inheritance comes in many forms.

Actual record shops with cheap, second-hand vinyl definitely helped. Let’s be honest, we’ve all soulseeked or rinsed blogspots for semi obscure electronica via equivalent methods, but cheap records meant you could still explore affordably. Discogs isn the same as traipsing round stores in the fucking rain, fingers rifling through dust covers with art you couldn’t quite believe or always afford. Anyone taken a punt on a record simply because the sleeve was intriguing? It wasn’t image as vanity, like a dress code or following a philosophy, so much as direct experience, the mindgasm when you find those sweet spots in and of music, like finally getting your cock wet. You’re balls deep.

Where do you even begin with Zappa? Rather than bore the tits off you further, it comes down to specific songs from specific lp’s. He was a god among mates and a slow build personally, until I heard the pieces below (and their equivalents). Persuasion by heart and sonic alchemy. There wasn’t a eureka moment so much as a series of rewinds. How did that go again? Rewind. Whaaat? The chord changes and rhythm puzzles your subconscious wants to fuck, even if your conscious mind doesn’t always configure the flow immediately or fully. The jokes. Scathing imagery. Balls out craft. Unreal talent of players coalescing. Filthy.

In no particular order and picking new video sources that corporate octopus YouTube has bequeathed to viewers, culprits cited are below (contribute more if you want) or it’ll take all weekend and I’m already being shouted at


Such a short brief glimpse of the heavens is a real tease, so included the original and a longer live rendition for the majesty



Had this on tape forever, even the kids sing parts of it and add their own words and replacements


On and on. Road Tapes habe a Helsinki gig of lightning talent really hitting their stride, opening up a metaphorical valve.


A concert is online from the same tour in Stockholm. My only claim to Zappa fame is being pictured in similar styled attire and sartorial bluntness as a kid. Take your pick. “Moving to Montana soooooon”, prescient as always

 
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version

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Camarillo Brillo and Willie the Pimp are probably my fav. Zappa tunes. My dad went to see Dweezil doing Zappa Plays Zappa a few years ago and said he was brilliant.
 

version

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I used to look at the cover of my dad's copy of Civilization Phaze III a lot, but I still haven't actually heard it. Part of me wants to leave it unheard, so it can remain this mysterious object.

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WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
It was tough when he passed away. Yes there’s the archive of insane material, but irreplaceable wit and candour especially around US hypocrisy.
 

Leo

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my older brother was a Zappa fan, his copies of "freak out" and "hot rats" led me to a world beyond top 40. some of the pre-jazzy Verve stuff is pretty great psych rock

 

Leo

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a sound that was so anti-lou before that tour, maybe he just went for the big slick arena rock sound just to piss off his old fans and critics.
 

luka

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As Leo knows Zappa does my head in but I've got a couple of mates who are obsessed. He's much more than a musician to them. It's like the relationship some people have with James Joyce or Kubrick or that Version has with Pynchon. I find that aspect fascinating. He inspires exegesis. An apostrophe becomes a symbol of the universe and everything. I just can't tolerate the music. Not my thing at all.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
He could definitely super-noodle. I’ve heard folks express something similar to you, akin to ‘why all the weird scales, why use xylophones so much?” etc, so you’re not alone. There’s no converting everyone, nor should there be.

There are the recorded studio works, too many to list, but it was when certain live gigs and Road sets of recordings became available that his playing in a live setting and showman’s wit broke through. The man was paradoxically both a laugh and deadly serious. The cherries on top are band members - George Duke, Ruth Underwood, JL Ponty et al, top tier musicians.

Now I’ve got to try and summarise a lifetime with Captain Beefheart.
 
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