Clinamenic

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High Rise
Based on the novel by the hero of one of this forum's late founders.

In a sentence: without the public sector, barbarism is inevitable.

A hermetically contained society: "I mean, doesn't it seem odd, Laing, that a man can fall from the 39th floor and not one police car turn up? Where's the investigation, Laing? I mean, where's the sirens?"
 

Clinamenic

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As an aside, this role of Irons' was pretty much a fallback for his portrayal of Adrian Veidt.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
So if the architect positioned himself as some head of tower, and organized a representative election per floor to collectively constitute a congress that may leverage his word, barbarism may have been averted?

I admit you, things would have gotten along a bit longer. But consider the confinement of the system. A relatively narrow divide, numerically, between grande and petit. What was to stop the upper chambers from swaying the system, more or less immediately?
 

Clinamenic

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So if the architect positioned himself as some head of tower, and organized a representative election per floor to collectively constitute a congress that may leverage his word, barbarism may have been averted?

I admit you, things would have gotten along a bit longer. But consider the confinement of the system. A relatively narrow divide, numerically, between grande and petit. What was to stop the upper chambers from swaying the system, more or less immediately?
Intelligence definitely tended upward, to aid your point. But I must point out the rather obvious extrapolative point which you seem to be either ignoring or denying in bad faith: the disproportionate nature of this contained society, relative to a state with an established public sector, makes it severely more difficult for a public sector to have any impact.

Arguing strictly within the parameters of an allegory ceases to qualify it as an allegory, young one. Take note.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
Note yourself, master, that I am no smitten pupil, but recognize my errors as I see them unfold.

I see the fault in my presumption, and to what false conclusions it may lead. Proportions of differing classes will not be assumed t reflect our established norm so long as they idiosyncratically differ from our established norm.

And for the record, I think I may actually agree with you, insofar as such things can be pinned down, yet find myself nonetheless in an explicit position of antithesis, as conjured.
 

Clinamenic

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Note yourself, master, that I am no smitten pupil, but recognize my errors as I see them unfold.

I see the fault in my presumption, and to what false conclusions it may lead. Proportions of differing classes will not be assumed t reflect our established norm so long as they idiosyncratically differ from our established norm.

And for the record, I think I may actually agree with you, insofar as such things can be pinned down, yet find myself nonetheless in an explicit position of antithesis, as conjured.
But have we reached a satisfactory synthesis? I think not, young one.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
But have we reached a satisfactory synthesis? I think not, young one.
Challenge accepted, master.

You say that, without the public sector, barbarism is inevitable.

One construable antithesis would be that barbarism is inevitable even given the existence of the public sector, which would merely constitute a semblance, a simulacrum of representation to sate the otherwise furious masses.

Such a semblance, properly dynamic and receptive enough to fluctuating popular demand, may suffice. In fact, it may suffice indefinitely, insofar as history reveals.

What say you, master, in regard to technology? That it may aid in preserving even a semblance of representation? That perhaps such a decentralized mode of -
 

Clinamenic

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- before you mention blockchain, which I sense rather acutely you will, I suggest we get some shut eye.
 
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