Neon Screams!
- Thread starter sufi
- Start date
-
- Tags
- blessing of the ayatollah fear ears the soul get your kit off goldsmiths shag-a-thon kit got the bag kitsch mackintosh mack daddy mackintosh plus medusa's bally mick cackintosh moronic political conclusions mugged off mumble writer new cross cultural mafia patron of the arts penmanship radio 4 book of the week sean connery pronouncing the title shotta squat rackintosh the politics of book reviews the whitest man who ever lived vybz and nobel white nerds a wailing
other_life
bioconfused
that's exactly it. the move from rap to what comes after rap is not a straight arrow from 'human emcee' to 'pitch-wheeling djinnim' but a wave between the two. the latter is receding while the former comes to the fore (transformed)
other_life
bioconfused
drill being corralled into this thesis can also very easily have holes poked in it on this point, there's a lot in drill that is not reliant on pitch-correction/other kinds of vocal augmentation but is in continuity with the history of rap -as rap-
+++ this could also dovetail with moanwave being the white lumpen's vocal psychedelia: GUNK is a common descriptor for synthesiser textures in that same kind of music - a shredding-through via hard limiting, cheap tape compression or successive and compressing auto-overdubs of the synthesizer preset
other_life
bioconfused
the neptunes/producers of that school making beats with no centering and all-compressing bass kick should be an example we look back on and move forward with. there's still a strictly musicological rupture to be made independent of or parallel to ruptures of vocalisation, and it's to definitively break with the 808
You actually had this with the more harsher ends of 90s rave. LSD is often associated with pastoralism but it's far more intergalactic. Mushrooms are very witchy in this regard. a great concept to hone further.
www.discogs.com
Revealingly:
One thing Simons Energy Flash is unable to ground properly, because I mean his position as part of the intelligentsia won't allow him to, is to truly get into the way that the nutter mentality compells said nutters to seek out deranged sounds. Luke is in one sense right to think of my music as cartoonish, but also in another way its a disservice, because its actually way beyond that, its an excessive recalibration of the nervous system, a recalibration that most clubbers (mature, sexed up, consumerist) shy away from. In this sense I would say that the real innovative drug of rave was not MDMA, but LSD and briefly MDA (snowballs) which approximated effects closer to acids disorientation and dissociation, hallucinations and fracturing of reality. E itself is actually very hippyish unless combined with amphetamines. And in fact you can hear this in the music, dodgy pills made the transition from hardcore to jungle one of the highest points of electronic music. This is where psytrance and drug cultures fail. Harm reduction is great for ones health, but an impediment to musical development.
There's no joy to be found in this music.
LSD Psychology - The Tomorrow E.P.
Explore songs, recommendations, and other album details for The Tomorrow E.P. by LSD Psychology. Compare different versions and buy them all on Discogs.
www.discogs.com
Revealingly:
One thing Simons Energy Flash is unable to ground properly, because I mean his position as part of the intelligentsia won't allow him to, is to truly get into the way that the nutter mentality compells said nutters to seek out deranged sounds. Luke is in one sense right to think of my music as cartoonish, but also in another way its a disservice, because its actually way beyond that, its an excessive recalibration of the nervous system, a recalibration that most clubbers (mature, sexed up, consumerist) shy away from. In this sense I would say that the real innovative drug of rave was not MDMA, but LSD and briefly MDA (snowballs) which approximated effects closer to acids disorientation and dissociation, hallucinations and fracturing of reality. E itself is actually very hippyish unless combined with amphetamines. And in fact you can hear this in the music, dodgy pills made the transition from hardcore to jungle one of the highest points of electronic music. This is where psytrance and drug cultures fail. Harm reduction is great for ones health, but an impediment to musical development.
There's no joy to be found in this music.
other_life
bioconfused
the shaman works with endurance poisons. m'khashefah lo t'chayyeh - an herb-worker you shall not let live
What I like about this book is it's forcing me to think about music completely contrary to it. Like I wish someone wrote this for really harsh Japanese free jazz like Masayuki Takayanagi or noise merchants Mainliner.
That chaos and incoherency I associate with this very brutal free jazz which almost expunges the uplifting soulfulness, only leaving the agonising pain of the blues.
That chaos and incoherency I associate with this very brutal free jazz which almost expunges the uplifting soulfulness, only leaving the agonising pain of the blues.
Yeah but mate listen to that Eric Ross lp on creel pone, and then tell me there has been such a thing as instrumental progress in a lot of the music you champion, if you extract the voice from it. This is the books blindspot, that it doesn't interrogate its notion of progress. Kill the rockist, kill the future! It's dead and buried, stop chafing away at that foreskin that got snipped off, let it go. We are in the future, it's here, the future is not autotune but music escaping the paradigms of the strictures of the old skool industry. A revolution, but in the mathematical sense. revolutions per nanosecond, faster than your mind can even comprehend. Amulets thrown into an uncealed toomb radioactively corroding everything they encounter. Hooligan plunderphonics now! The bourgeoisie has no more culture to offer, destroy the club and the party, let a festival of the gutters bloom! Dramatise all Stalinist 5 year plans in sonic form, don't ghost your ancestors, drag them from side-to-side, increase their horrified vertigo, smash their skulls, mop up the coagulating ooz that springs up from their eyeballs, chuck their feet in a pit of flames for their adultery, bring them into the future, show them Hiroshima and Nagasaki, extend their shreeks of terror into infinity! Pure acid puritanism, no idols, no joy, no fun, no sedation, just pure anxiety and adrenaline, an electronic current completely enveloping all that it encounters, turning the entire world into its own dominion, closer and closer and closer until there is no you, but you are everything. Launch!
Last edited:
CrowleyHead
Well-known member
Third shadowboxing dozens of invisible Bartys, knocking out so many of them like filler ninja goons from a Sonny Chiba flick.
CrowleyHead
Well-known member
He's too silky for you.
Yes. the 808 is too tyranical. Some techno geezers pushed it as far as it could go in the 90s, but we must now lift off into pure hypopolyrhythmic distorted darbuka jihad.
808 wizardry, maybe drill and acid techno could be compatible
seems to me you're expecting this book to function as some kind of authentic journalistic account of the genres it covers in a way that was simply never intended. i don't think he's saying "all the kids are talking about a new genre they're calling dionysian machine elf rap, you heard it from me first!" he's saying, "hey you, uninvolved bookish nerd who's reading this, here's a distinction i make where i'm listening that you might appreciate as well." in more brilliant than the sun eshun uses all sorts of weird made up terms that no one making the music ever used and that's part of the appeal. i think it's about demonstrating to the uninitiated that the music in question is rich enough to reward deep imaginative engagement.
that said, surely it's bad to privilege this sort of account so much that the actual stories of the people directly involved get obscured. but my hope would be that hearing about this music first in a more fantastical way would make people (again, i'm thinking of the culturally uninvolved nerds like me who might read this book) more curious about the more direct realities that shaped it, not less.
eh, as you yourself said, futurism has always been imaginary. surely we can agree that the value of the book doesn't rest on his ability to make nostradamus style predictions about the next big thing. "but never underestimate the power of myth, they can be thousand years out of date and still provide great works of beauty and horror." great line imo it applies here.
tbf he readily admits that. i think the reasoning for its inclusion was at least a little bit “hey since i’m writing a book, here’s another thing i have opinions about” lol.