Clinamenic

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Beyond that, I see no longer see any place for the pro-web3 half of the dialect on Dissensus. I'm finally starting to concede the floor to 80's pop music or whatever else proves of enduring interest here, and I will take my technobabble elsewhere.
 

Clinamenic

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I didn't need to lash out like that, just struck a nerve is all. I more or less work in the public goods sector of web3, and we tend to tire of people thinking of us as scammers.
 

catalog

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i don't think this is gonna quite the same way as the internet of things went, but it's also not gonna be as quick as everyone is assuming. like me friend said, it's only happening once we all get our goggles.
 

Clinamenic

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Yeah the current wave of metaverse hype is pretty much built around a vision of goofy video games and ersatz virtual assets. The various technologies underpinning these things are only getting better though, which is worth bearing in mind.

To me the actual trend is how we are spending now a third of our lives on screens, dealing less with people and events directly, but more with digital representations of people and events. The term metaverse does semantically apply to this trend, it just happens to be facilely sensationalized to drive investment.
 

catalog

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Yeah the current wave of metaverse hype is pretty much built around a vision of goofy video games and ersatz virtual assets. The various technologies underpinning these things are only getting better though, which is worth bearing in mind.

To me the actual trend is how we are spending now a third of our lives on screens, dealing less with people and events directly, but more with digital representations of people and events. The term metaverse does semantically apply to this trend, it just happens to be facilely sensationalized to drive investment.

The unevenness of it is a factor and I do think, maybe I'm incorrect, that in say the last 5 years, there has also been plenty of pushback to the screen and people are trying to get off them a bit if they can.

So you might look at eg plateau of ebooks sales versus print, or maybe this Netflix slowdown.

I don't know if its anything real but I do feel there is a new agnosticism to tech that wasn't really around a few years ago.
 

Clinamenic

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Yeah I definitely sense that too. I even suspect it may culminate into more of an out-right anti-tech movement, which may align certain strains of both the far left and far right. Or it may manifest as more of a lukewarm, centrist moderation of screen-time, which I wouldn't really call anti-tech.
 

catalog

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Yeah, I think some kind of nature fascism could be on the cards. Like an update of all the Unfinished 60s stuff but also back to vandervogel and Ernest haeckel and all that.

And yeah, the softer side will be the continued wellbeing agenda of yoga with adrienne and brain training apps
 

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catalog

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Where are the solar panels and self composting toilet block? Also I would add some trees. And maybe a front door. Bug looks good.
 

Clinamenic

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Where are the solar panels and self composting toilet block? Also I would add some trees. And maybe a front door. Bug looks good.
I'm sure there are some wildlife models to import, but I was just working with all the native models in the software.

Because spatial is a web3 app, you can have doors that only open if you have certain tokens in your wallet.
 

Clinamenic

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This "token" business with everything nowadays.
Yeah the big aha moment is when you see that it's not just financial speculation - really the speculation part of web3 has grown to be the most bothersome part of it. IE some of the token use cases that most interest me are when the tokens are non-transferable, thus categorically precluding financial speculation.
 

catalog

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Yeah the big aha moment is when you see that it's not just financial speculation - really the speculation part of web3 has grown to be the most bothersome part of it. IE some of the token use cases that most interest me are when the tokens are non-transferable, thus categorically precluding financial speculation.
It's sort of a way to create a platform loyalty outside of money but it reminds me of when they had Mills up here and all the workers were paid in tokens or vouchers so when they went to the shop, they needed to use tokens. Like ration books and stuff. Stopgap cos money is not working right.
 

Clinamenic

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It's sort of a way to create a platform loyalty outside of money but it reminds me of when they had Mills up here and all the workers were paid in tokens or vouchers so when they went to the shop, they needed to use tokens. Like ration books and stuff. Stopgap cos money is not working right.
Yeah the whole narrative of an alternative monetary system is still (turbulently) playing out, but a lot of the interesting stuff doesn't even need to involve speculative investment or alternative media of exchange - in general its just a public database that is maintained by a consensus among users, and algorithms can be written which take changes to this database as inputs, and output other changes to the database, and all such algorithms (smart contracts) are open source.
 
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