CITY POP (70s-80s Japanese Pop)
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william_kent
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the "real heads" know it as funk carioca
...it never went away in Brazil - and there has been an "evolution" in the sound since the 2000s with derivatives from Sao Paolo, so now there are subgenres like funk ostentação ( praising conspicuous consumption ), raggafunk, funk 150 bpm, and rave funk which join the older styles celebrating drug cartels and the joy of anal sex.. but I can't see the city pop crowd enjoying any of these Rave Funk:
DJ GBR - Rave Pump It
Funk 150 bpm:
MC TIKÃO - SENTA NO 150
Raggafunk:
MC WM - Fuleragem
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ok
i'm not some kinda expert on this but yeah couple links i've seen
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@william_kent i mean its far more upbeat than the average "city pop" song for one but its also alot messier sounding
i mean look as long as i don't have to see people be like "yknow Mussolini's granddaughter made a city pop song and turns out...its not that bad" like their trying to defend Skrewdriver's first album, i'll be alright
i mean look as long as i don't have to see people be like "yknow Mussolini's granddaughter made a city pop song and turns out...its not that bad" like their trying to defend Skrewdriver's first album, i'll be alright
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There is the "ambiente" end of baile funk i.e. the minas gerais scene thats a bit more spacey and palatable
There was a lot of baile getting played in South a few years back, hundreds of free tracks on producer soundclouds which helps yr DJs a lot
There was a lot of baile getting played in South a few years back, hundreds of free tracks on producer soundclouds which helps yr DJs a lot
william_kent
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I associate city pop with "sophistication" and over produced MOR, while funk carioca has always seemed to be a bit more cheap samplers and low bitrate to me
william_kent
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although having said that, the funk ostentação tunes I've heard have been pretty bland
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i agree keep it a buck i've often felt some of the stuff in city pop that gets propped up if it wasn't made in Japan and tied to Vaporwave's fascination/fetishisation of 80's Japan people wouldn't care
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see i disagree with this cause a large reason why Japan had the prosperity it had was built of the back of them running large parts of south east asia ragged, Thailand, the Philippines,Manchuria so it's not so cut and dry as it being "human"
It might seem human to Westerners cause back in the 80s Japan was seen as legit threat cause of the advances in tech they were making at the time(equal parts fascination and really old yellow peril bullshit) but lets not forget aswell as the early 90s economic crash Aum Shinrikyo played a large part in killing this optimism stone dead
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i feel like alot of people who moved to London as a way of escaping their provincial town english suburban lives have this same kind of shock, they think they can hide it under getting into a new subculture and switching up their fashion but problem is all their old friends had the exact same idea and followed suit.
so they're all stuck in this strange limbo and for somebody like me whose lived in the city all his life you can just see right through them and they reek of that anxiety.
but then also they're the same ones to turn around and look at people who move to London afterwards and complain about gentrifiers not thinking about their roles in all of it
william_kent
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I don't think this book has been mentioned - one for the collectors
It was available from EM records on bandcamp but is now sold out - I don't have a copy ( not interested in the genre ) but might be of interest to some...
It was available from EM records on bandcamp but is now sold out - I don't have a copy ( not interested in the genre ) but might be of interest to some...
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also i dunno about you @suspended but i feel like the one thing that unites small town people moving to big cities across the Atlantic is thought that "no matter how bad things get i will never ever move back to my hometown"
Leo
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seen this happen a million times. I probably did it myself, long ago.
snav
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god i wish i had a copy of this
definitely agree. problem is that there's also plenty of stuff where i literally cannot find western equivalents that are any good, like mid-80s Hiroshi Sato. Find me something that sounds like this, I look forward to it:
this is also what happened when City Pop morphed into Shibuya Kei in the early 90s. the hi-fi vs lo-fi pendulum keeps on swingin
william_kent
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I just checked on amazon.com ( you're in USA? ) by entering the ISBN ( 9784866471136 ) into the search - there's a copy for $46