Glitchcore? Cybergoth? Post-hardcore? Breakcore? Weirdcore?

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woops said:
seriously though @serialsurprise hardly any of us were "there" in 92. i myself was 12 years old in 1992. i think what you referred to in your first post is perhaps a combination of the forum's ill "reputation", and an apparently good record by Zomby called "where were you in '92" which came out in 2008.
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yeah a Zomby album where the name apprently came from a MIA lyric?

can anybody confirm? i've never liked MIA
 
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Oi oi!

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serialsurprise said:
GHE20G0TH1K helped birth the "deconstructed club" (Arca, Amnesia Scanner...) sound along with nights like Janus in Berlin. similar to DJs in the early 90s mixing techno and dub with sped up hip hop breaks giving birth to the production style of jungle, the live mixing style at GHE20G0TH1K (cutups of edits of ghetto club tracks from around the world) became the confrontational sound collage production style known as deconstructed club. both have their origin in DJ culture, in live mixing and audience response.
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And yet it couldn't birth anything truly anti-baroque like hardcore, or jungle. It was too tied to novelty and exhumation of Jersey club, and a lack of real knowledge with the anonimity of the continua it wanted to lay claim to, be that techno or hardcore/jungle. It had more to do with like the tortured artistry of NIN and a vague industrial aesthetic. Hence why when those producers did experiment into new structures, their music ended up being a more guilty white post-colonial theory acquainted journalist friendly idea of IDM. I hink a lot of this has to do with the video game derived idea of worldbuilding. This doesn't really exist in rave music, and when it does (see psytrance) it is universally terrible. Rave music is psychedelic, yes, but more the quotidian psychedelia of the congested city experience. Ironically I think deconstructed club was not nearly global enough, and actually those movements which are of interest now such as music coming from Egypt, Iran, Lebanon etc can't be grouped into that crowd (even if there is overlap.) It's this idea that American culture thinks it can be the only real cosmopolitan culture, when it isn't.

Also one thing I find bizarre about American interpretations of rave is they are obsessed with laying claim to a punk aesthetic. Even though GHE20G0TH1K and the decon scene is a club scene, it's idea of clubbing is very punk. Outside of the crusty acid tekkkno/trance types here, rave has very little to do with punk at all!
 
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Luke Slater production which got played by Randall in '92. can't hear any punk rock and idiots with guitars in this lol

 
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