Modern Male Fashion and its consequences

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I'm not actually sure about this - a point that I've heard made a few times is that men's clothes traditionally use the visual and physical structure of the clothes to "correct" the appearance of the wearer, so you can't magic a beer gut and man boobs away but a well-cut jacket, shirt and trousers will make them less prominent than a plain t-shirt would.

But when can you wear that outfit without looking like an ass?

 

[Slothrop]

OTOH for a lot of people in a lot of contexts, wearing a well-cut jacket, shirt and trousers makes you look like an insufferably pretentious wannabe, so maybe you can't win.

Edit: yeah, exactly.

 

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I wont police the thread but a direction I thought could be explored was modern male fashion as a humilation punishment bestowed upon us by the shiny ones

 

[shakahislop]

I'm not actually sure about this - a point that I've heard made a few times is that men's clothes traditionally use the visual and physical structure of the clothes to "correct" the appearance of the wearer, so you can't magic a beer gut and man boobs away but a well-cut jacket, shirt and trousers will make them less prominent than a plain t-shirt would.

i'm often kind of staggered by how much you can do with clothes in terms of changing the affect that someone creates. it's annoying because i hate having to think about what i look like but it is undeniable that they make a difference to how people treat one another. there's definitely better and worse clothes to wear if for whatever reason you want to hide a beer gut.

 

[shakahislop]

I wont police the thread but a direction I thought could be explored was modern male fashion as a humilation punishment bestowed upon us by the shiny ones

i mean generally you have a bit of control over what you wear. i often think that the uniforms people have to wear in Staples or whatever are designed to make people appear subservient though. for big chains especially it's not just an accident that those clothes have that result in how you treat people

 

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i mean generally you have a bit of control over what you wear. i often think that the uniforms people have to wear in Staples or whatever are designed to make people appear subservient though. for big chains especially it's not just an accident that those clothes have that result in how you treat people

Obviously you can wear what you want but there are unspoken rules about what dress is appropriate for what occaison

 

[woops]

But what are the ugly supposed to wear?

Paper bag

 

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Paper bag

Woops understands

 

[Mr. Tea]

Paper bag

I'm glad I clicked onto the next page, as I was about to say precisely this.

 

[shakahislop]

Obviously you can wear what you want but there are unspoken rules about what dress is appropriate for what occaison

one thing that does feel like a punishment is needing to wear shirts and trousers for some kinds of office work. i find them quite uncomfortable and i feel like a berk wearing them on the subway. at the same time, i don't wear that because someone is telling me to, its because it helps make people take what i'm saying seriously (obviously the problem is that i have a job where that's important).

i would definitely prefer it if i never had to think about what i looked like. actually in england that was a lot easier. but in a lot of social worlds i've been a part of it is just quite a useful form of social interaction to wear particular things. in my mid-20s i basically had to simultaneously exist in the (for want of a better word) 'working class' world that i came from and the fancy middle-class world, and i found that it made me dress in totally neutral ways, it let me be a part of both of those things. going too far in either direction would have made it hard for me to participate in the other

 

[WashYourHands]

Working from home, currently sporting new balance sandals because the shiny ones’ advert seemed like a good idea at the time. They are comfy with velcro straps, in Falklands veteran green (after the Goose ops naturally)

a niece has dr martens sandals which are pretty techno for a nipper

 

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I'm not actually sure about this - a point that I've heard made a few times is that men's clothes traditionally use the visual and physical structure of the clothes to "correct" the appearance of the wearer, so you can't magic a beer gut and man boobs away but a well-cut jacket, shirt and trousers will make them less prominent than a plain t-shirt would.

It's the beer gut that's the issue though. You're not going to look that bad in a t-shirt and jeans if you're in shape.

 

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It's the beer gut that's the issue though. You're not going to look that bad in a t-shirt and jeans if you're in shape.

these are successful millionare athletes

 

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None of these people are wearing a t-shirt and jeans and they'd all look worse with beer guts.

 

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None of these people are wearing a t-shirt and jeans and they'd all look worse with beer guts

Youre quibbling over inconsequential details here but even so, that they arent and dont yet still look like shit is my point

 

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Im trying to have a fun thread here and all I get from version is 'looks fine, just lift m8'

 

[shakahislop]

It's the beer gut that's the issue though. You're not going to look that bad in a t-shirt and jeans if you're in shape.

yeah but obviously most people aren't in shape. the people who are in shape are a minority. in the uk a quick google of good data says that 70% of men are overweight. not that there aren't problems with that kind of definition etc but you get the idea. so clothes have to adapt to that

 

[IdleRich]

heh, was up on the hills at the weekend and got proper dissing by the lycra clad ramblers for wearing non-mountaineering garb
"the pub's that way, gents"

A savage dis, must have cut you to the quick and left you shaking and humiliated. Who knew that Dorothy Parker was resurrected as a British mountaineer?

One of those ones where you think of the perfect response... but normally a few hours too late. If you did have the presence of mind though, I think it would have been a great rejoinder if you had flashed back with "Oh fuck off you cunt".