Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I know this is incredibly annoying but...



Another distinction that is fast disappearing but that would be a shame as I think it's quite useful... as also forbear and forebear where it's clearer.

I understand that usage trumps all but it seems a pity when useful distinctions such as disinterested and uninterested - which are now used virtually interchangeably - are flattened out removing some of the subtlety and nuance from the language.
No, that's fair enough. I must complement you on some quality pedantry there.
 

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Some nice clobber there
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Some nice clobber there

yellow t was lovely but more like shades of runny nose irl, then I put it on

Linen (/ˈlɪnən/) is a textile made from the fibers of the flax plant. Linen is very strong, absorbent, and dries faster than cotton. Because of these properties, linen is comfortable to wear in hot weather and is valued for use in garments.

bs, PS more like nylon in a sauna in said example

one of the liberations of maturing is 99% of the more attentive rituals of attire (football was ruthless for it) doesn’t really matter

you can get away with anything - smart casual, suit and tie, hoodie n shorts or beach trunks and you don’t look out of place in any, insecurities of teenage smegma as clothing long gone

you don’t want to care too much, see acid goths, it becomes obvious in a microsecond as any archaeological site will attest to
 

mixed_biscuits

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yellow t was lovely but more like shades of runny nose irl, then I put it on

Linen (/ˈlɪnən/) is a textile made from the fibers of the flax plant. Linen is very strong, absorbent, and dries faster than cotton. Because of these properties, linen is comfortable to wear in hot weather and is valued for use in garments.

bs, PS more like nylon in a sauna in said example

one of the liberations of maturing is 99% of the more attentive rituals of attire (football was ruthless for it) doesn’t really matter

you can get away with anything - smart casual, suit and tie, hoodie n shorts or beach trunks and you don’t look out of place in any, insecurities of teenage smegma as clothing long gone

you don’t want to care too much, see acid goths, it becomes obvious in a microsecond as any archaeological site will attest to
I was referring to the Matalan stuff :(
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I'm not saying anything new when I mention that women's clothing offers way more variety and opportunities to express oneself and simply have fun. Even in completely mainstream circles I mean. I guess the downside is that they have to think about it way more.

Sometimes when I dj I treat it almost as a performance and get dressed up in clothes that I would not wear in the ordinary course of events. To me that probably suggests that I am a frustrated and cowardly dresser who only takes risks when he can disavow it as a performance - effectively fancy dress. Though that's not the full story, my tastes or even desires change and I go through long periods glad to just be able to slob around in shapeless trackies and t-shirt.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I have a friend on fb - I know him irl too but now we are in different countries so just fb - and he was a pretty hefty bloke, I guess a borderline alcoholic and he recognised he had a problem and had a bit of a struggle and successfully stopped drinking completely. As a result he lost a lot of weight and went from being a big shapeless blob - he's very tall so when he was bloated like that he was huge - to being tall, slim and kinda imposing I suppose. He's also started buying clothes... lots of clothes and, almost every day, he does a full length selfie describing exactly what he's wearing in painstaking and, to me, painful detail.

The clothes are designer things I guess, almost invariably beige or chestnut with maybe some cream or other shades of white or brown. Perhaps if he's feeling really adventurous some blue jeans may feature. He talks about the materials and the stitching and the workmanship and a number of freaks encourage him saying "wow" or "I have been looking for a jacket in that shade of maroon for years" - as far as I can tell they're not taking the piss.

Why am I saying this? Not sure really, I guess cos every day my fingers itch to wade in and slag off his shit clothes and his stupid fucking fashion parade in the strongest and cruellest words I can muster, and I don't want to do that cos I like the guy and why should I spoil his harmless fun? So I just get it out of my system here.

Or, maybe a bigger point, I'd just been kinda complaining about how women have more freedom with clothes, yet as soon as I see a guy doing the same my first instinct is to kick over his sandcastle and start bullying him... I guess I'm part of the problem.

@DannyL you know who I'm on about, I know what you're like but obviously don't mention this please.
 
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yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
a while back i decided to only wear one type of sweatpants and one type of sweater forever, just some basic, generic model from cotton. i would look exactly the same every day, the same generic blue or black sports outfit, no stripes, no motives, no brands. i thought it would somehow be liberating but actually now that i look back on it i think i was going through a depression.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I have a friend on fb - I know him irl too but now we are in different countries so just fb - and he was a pretty hefty bloke, I guess a borderline alcoholic and he recognised he had a problem and had a bit of a struggle and successfully stopped drinking completely. As a result he lost a lot of weight and went fro being a big shapeless blob - he's very tall so when he was bloated like that he was huge - to being kinda tall, slim and kinda imposing I suppose. He's also started buying clothes... lots of clothes and, almost every day, he does a full length selfie describing exactly what he's wearing in painstaking and, to me, painful deatail.

The clothes are designer things I guess, almost invariably beige or chestnut with maybe some cream or other shades of white or brown. Perhaps if he's feeling really adventurous some blue jeans may feature. He talks about the materials and the stitching and the workmanship and a number of freaks encourage him saying "wow" or "I have been looking for a jacket in that shade of maroon for years" - as far as I can tell they're not taking the piss.

Why am I saying this? Not sure really, I guess cos every day my fingers itch to wade in and slag off his shit clothes and his stupid fucking fashion parade in the strongest and cruellest words I can muster, and I don't want to do that cos I like the guy and why should I spoil his harmless fun? So I just get it out of my system here.

Or, maybe a bigger point, I'd just been kinda complaining about how women have more freedom with clothes, yet as soon as I see a guy doing the same my first instinct is to kick over his sandcastle and start bullying him... I guess I'm part of the problem.

@DannyL you know who I'm on about, I know what you're like but obviously don't mention this please.
You should definitely mention this to him. The humiliation might be enough to trigger a relapse of his alcoholism, and the ensuing weight gain, general loss of self-esteem and the shift in spending all his disposable income on booze should cure him of his crippling sartorial addiction.

You'd be doing him a favour in the long run and he'll probably thank you for it eventually.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
a while back i decided to only wear one type of sweatpants and one type of sweater forever, just some basic, generic model from cotton. i would look exactly the same every day, the same generic blue or black sports outfit, no stripes, no motives, no brands. i thought it would somehow be liberating but actually now that i look back on it i think i was going through a depression.

To me that sounds like one of those things that could go one way or the other - could feel liberating or like a trap, zen simplicity or crushing repetition. And I don't see any way to know how it will feel for you other than trying it.
 

shakahislop

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There's a lot that you can slag off when it comes to people taking a lot of care over their appearance. It can look entirely self-centered, self-serving, a way of gaining advantage over everyone else. The muscles thing can come across that as well. The most annoying aspect of all of it being that it raises the bar and you end up feeling that you have to give all that time and attention to it as well.

All that said, while that is probably part of the picture, there's a lot of other stuff going on as well, not least a kind of self-expression, and with a lot of the body transformation stuff there is obviously an innate enjoyment to making all the muscles and that.
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
i felt like becoming invisible after a while, fading away, as if people wouldn't notice me any more. and i realized it actually is nice to stand out a little bit, to shine a bit. it's nice when someone notices you're wearing something new, or complimenting you on something, it makes people remember you, leaves an impression.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
I see people in nyc every day who I think would look like blithering idiots if they dressed like they do in but were walking around in eg, Reading. But it works here. It's contextual obviously. And when I moved here I dressed like I was in Reading and people basically seemed to be a bit scared of me.
 

catalog

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I used to work with a guy who had a lot of tattoos and piercings and he said it was basically so he was more attractive to women. And he said he looked into the history of tattoos and piercings and came to the conclusion that it was all about that anyway.

I wear very generic clothing most of the time. I shop at places like sports direct or marks and Spencer, sales. I used to spend ages buying clothes, looking for vintage stuff in chazzas, but something happened and I don't bother anymore. I wish I had some of my old clothes still, I had some great jackets in particular, old man ones with a sheeny shiney feel to them.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I used to spend ages buying clothes, looking for vintage stuff in chazzas, but something happened and I don't bother anymore. I wish I had some of my old clothes still, I had some great jackets in particular, old man ones with a sheeny shiney feel to them.
Same; I'm that I used to hit the chazzas, stopped, started again, then designer stuff, stopped, chazzas again etc

Basically I go in and out of caring lots or not at all.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
i felt like becoming invisible after a while, fading away, as if people wouldn't notice me any more. and i realized it actually is nice to stand out a little bit, to shine a bit. it's nice when someone notices you're wearing something new, or complimenting you on something, it makes people remember you, leaves an impression.
Two times recently while in kinda fancy dress people have asked to take my photo. One time I'm ninety percent sure she was taking the piss though... but what can you do in that situation?
 

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