Album as Event versus Album as Sessionable

mvuent

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Same way, I guess, that I think "wanting visual art to put in your house/hang on your wall" is completely reasonable and not some philistine midbrow take.
music seems like something that the more enjoyable it is, the less it has to command all your attention
not being inviting on a surface level does feel like an artistic flaw of sorts. AND YET a lot of what i'd consider the best music is like that. speaking as someone who usually stumbles through life pretty unfocused, absent-minded—i'm 100% certain that my greatest experiences with music come at the rare times when i achieve something that feels like total immersion. those rare moments when you seem to be in a heightened state of focus and it's like you're attuned to everything happening in your headphones or speakers or environment. the name of the old rave act "hyper-on experience" comes to mind as a perfect descriptor of this. basically if you don't look like this when you're listening

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what's the point?
 

version

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Gaspar Noe has prob seen Salo numerous times lol

'I was still living in Buenos Aires when my father wrote me from France – he had to escape for legal reasons from Argentina. He said, “I’ve seen the most shocking movie ever!” It was 120 Days Of Sodom in Paris. I was probably 12 years old when I received the letter. I said “I wanna see what my father saw!” A few months later we arrived with my mother, and I wanted to see it, but my father said, “You’re too young. In France you’ll be able to see all these other movies that are great, just wait!” The day I turned eighteen, my mother said, “It’s your eighteenth birthday, come with me, I’m going to take you to see Pasolini’s Sodom. We need to talk about human cruelty.”

So I went with my mother to see that movie on my birthday, and I thought, “Shit! This is even worse than I expected!”
She wanted to have a discussion when we came back home. She said, “Now you know how evil man can be to man.” I didn’t want to rewatch it for 12 years, but in my mind it was always like I had seen it yesterday. It’s a very powerful movie, because it’s not binary. It’s all about domination, and how people dominate to prove to themselves they have some power, but then they don’t know what to do with the power… that even the victims in the movie seem like they are potential aggressors. It’s probably the most reptilian depiction of humankind I’ve seen depicted in a narrative.'
 

luka

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not being inviting on a surface level does feel like an artistic flaw of sorts. AND YET a lot of what i'd consider the best music is like that. speaking as someone who usually stumbles through life pretty unfocused, absent-minded—i'm 100% certain that my greatest experiences with music come at the rare times when i achieve something that feels like total immersion. those rare moments when you seem to be in a heightened state of focus and it's like you're attuned to everything happening in your headphones or speakers or environment. the name of the old rave act "hyper-on experience" comes to mind as a perfect descriptor of this. basically if you don't look like this when you're listening

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what's the point?
'Properly, we should read for power. Man reading should be man intensely alive. the book should be a ball of light in one's hands.'
 

mvuent

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'Properly, we should read for power. Man reading should be man intensely alive. the book should be a ball of light in one's hands.'
funny how when it comes to books people around here want (or at least express interest in) dense demanding books written by learned, experienced intellectuals whereas with music they want simple tunes bashed out by idiot 20 year olds who don't know anything. i'm not saying anyone shouldn't be allowed to feel that way, it's just interesting.
 
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