do you have an inner monologue?

[Clinamenic]

Sometimes yes, but often times my cognitive activity outpaces my abilities of articulation, so instead of an inner monologue I'm left with more of a sort of inner theater of logical sequences and visuospatial constructs of information

 

[version]

The stream in my head is very visual, language comes in when i think of its applications, sentences or conversations and memories of speaking, but my thought doesnt feel rooted in language

Are you fully able to tease apart when you're thinking of language and just thinking of images though? Is there not some part of you that recognises the corresponding language the moment you think of the image?

 

[shiels]

a sort of inner theater of logical sequences and visuospatial constructs of information

yes

Im trying to do an inner monologue now and find it hard, theres too much going at once and the thoughts are changing too fast to flow as sentences

 

[shiels]

Are you fully able to tease apart when you're thinking of language and just thinking of images though? Is there not some part of you that recognises the corresponding language the moment you think of the image?

sometimes, again if im tinking about saying or writing it, remembering what i said or thinking of what i might say to someone else. but im not usually talking to myself about my experiences

 

[version]

When you read, do you hear your voice in your head or do the words just go in as you look at them?

 

[shiels]

I dont usually see or hear the word in my minds eye, the thing exists in itself without a name. Caveat, sometimes i do talk out loud to myself to help focus or memorise

 

[shiels]

When you read, do you hear your voice in your head or do the words just go in as you look at them?

they just go in. are you reading these words IN YOUR OWN VOICE!?

 

[version]

they just go in. are you reading these words IN YOUR OWN VOICE!?

Sort of, but there's a difference, like I said earlier when I mentioned reading in your head vs. reading aloud in your head. They go in almost instantaneously when I read as normal, but the pace drops and I can hear my voice if I concentrate on reading them and sound out the words internally.

 

[version]

I'm struggling to imagine being in a permanent state of either monologue or imagery. The two are so intertwined for me.

 

[WashYourHands]

Go on…

assumes Jordan Peterson Kermit voice

the Shadow

the Shadow encourages me to punch people who fuck me off and not cinematically either, not Hollywood style slow-motion violence, snarling nasty Glasgow voice regaling me with torture scenes and firearms offences but I put my arm around the cunt and say “fancy a bacon roll and a Jaffa cake instead?”

it’ll shrug and strop off to the shed, mumble obscenities, tell me it’s ok doing prison time for damaging a few problems, instead of the naughty step I offer it a cup of coffee

Mr Shadow had the reigns for a while when heroin was levelling this daemon and he had a silent partner too, the Shark - even I didn’t always see that cunt coming, it would deploy in sketchy situations where all your intuition is saying this is gonna go tits up in the next 20 seconds so act

personality parts now 98% reintegrated into a whole, a round table - wisdom nurturing and shielding parts, antagonists like the shark and the sentry on the other - where we hash reality out

outside of the all subconscious prefiguring of movement in spacetime, eg how to get from this desk to a kettle in the next room, your ego states are jostling for Control too or at least where and how I’ve tried to outline above, they have very distinct tones intermingled with the chaos of imagery

 

[shiels]

It's quite difficult to pin down and get sense of just how much the voice is speaking and leading for people. because of course we're forced to express ourselves through it! i do 'hear' my own voice in my minds eye as im writing, much less so when reading. if there is a voice its a trace, very neutral, very quiet , unaffected... but i can engage voices

 

[version]

You get other thoughts coming in too, like Hands says. That's one use for the monologue, I've found. You can actively tussle with intrusive thoughts and reason your way out of them.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Sometimes yes, but often times my cognitive activity outpaces my abilities of articulation, so instead of an inner monologue I'm left with more of a sort of inner theater of logical sequences and visuospatial constructs of information

Ladies and gentlemen, the man whose thought is literally too fast for words!

 

[Benny Bunter]

One thing I've noticed is Spanish people tend to talk to themselves out loud a lot more than English people do, they vocalise it all, maybe it's healthier in some ways to do that I dunno, can be annoying sometimes though

 

[shiels]

assumes Jordan Peterson Kermit voice

the Shadow

the Shadow encourages me to punch people who fuck me off and not cinematically either, not Hollywood style slow-motion violence, snarling nasty Glasgow voice regaling me with torture scenes and firearms offences but I put my arm around the cunt and say “fancy a bacon roll and a Jaffa cake instead?”

it’ll shrug and strop off to the shed, mumble obscenities, tell me it’s ok doing prison time for damaging a few problems, instead of the naughty step I offer it a cup of coffee

Mr Shadow had the reigns for a while when heroin was levelling this daemon and he had a silent partner too, the Shark - even I didn’t always see that cunt coming, it would deploy in sketchy situations where all your intuition is saying this is gonna go tits up in the next 20 seconds so act

personality parts now 98% reintegrated into a whole, a round table - wisdom nurturing and shielding parts, antagonists like the shark and the sentry on the other - where we hash reality out

outside of the all subconscious prefiguring of movement in spacetime, eg how to get from this desk to a kettle in the next room, your ego states are jostling for Control too or at least where and how I’ve tried to outline above, they have very distinct tones intermingled with the chaos of imagery

I will have fantasies of myself doing various violent things, future arguments etc and will imagine myself saying things yes, they'll sometimes even make me speak out loud. telling my boss to fuck off and that

 

[shiels]

Ladies and gentlemen, the man whose thought is literally too fast for words!

Starting to think there's truth to this - me and stan are joint first fastest conceptualists on the forum and the rest of you are trundling along doing your own shit attenborough about your own thoughts! why bother!

 

[WashYourHands]

writing focuses and if you’re exploring certain themes it can be like a chain of balloons popping, rather than a continuous flow state even if certain psychology types would describe any creative process as approaching flow, if you’re transcending inner noise

I will have fantasies of myself doing various violent things, future arguments etc and will imagine myself saying things yes, they'll sometimes even make me speak out loud. telling my boss to fuck off and that

aye it gets Limmyesque at times, certain board members are one sub-group yeah yeah ya yacking hypocritical cunts what about I just pull out a couple of hammers and leave them in sight for you all to see and then tap them briefly on the chair so this one cunt knows they’re steel and nae plastic and start waving them round feverishly while talking over one specific cunt and then stand up rapid and strut round and start giving him a shoulder massage to ramp up the terror of impending doom and then stove the cunt’s swede in

can’t imagine many English people with these cognitive gains

 

[WashYourHands]

You have to let it run its course and mediate

Why humans are social creatures and love small talk, not many people want to or are comfortable with sitting alone with real aspects of their own conscious and subconscious selves

In the same way Burroughs noted being in good company when you can sit in silence with a friend too, no awkwardness, simply being together and letting a subject eventually form worth exploring