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Just a quick heads up- 2za & Dizzman are on ScoreFive next monday.
That's Hype Squad's 2za & Musical Mobb's Dizzman.

This may seem a little early but man I'm hyped.
 

Sick Boy

All about pride and egos
Wiley responds to the 'Credit Crunch'

Wiley - Cash In My Pocket ft. Daniel Merriweather produced by Mark Ronson.

See Clear Now is out November 10th.

This is fucking awful on so many levels.

Consider this one, for instance,: why, when you are one of the most groundbreaking and talented producers of the last decade or so, who is surrounded by producers of a similar calibre who themselves have at times proven their ability to make fine, marketable pop music (e.g. Bless Beats), do you employ MARK RONSON for a BEAT on your RECORD.

WILEY!!!
You'll fool them, but not me. At least he'll get another all-denim suit out of this.
 

Logan

Grime Guru
This is fucking awful on so many levels.

Consider this one, for instance,: why, when you are one of the most groundbreaking and talented producers of the last decade or so, who is surrounded by producers of a similar calibre who themselves have at times proven their ability to make fine, marketable pop music (e.g. Bless Beats), do you employ MARK RONSON for a BEAT on your RECORD.

WILEY!!!
You'll fool them, but not me. At least he'll get another all-denim suit out of this.

Wiley sounded quite dejected when he was telling me about turning up to the studio with his beats ready to go and being presented with most of what you will hear on the album by the manager and various session players. I think that's why he just handed the album in and was making noise about leaving the label.

He is planning to release another album, Race Against Time, later and has a single from that called 'She's Glowing' which will be out November 24th.
 
Wiley sounded quite dejected when he was telling me about turning up to the studio with his beats ready to go and being presented with most of what you will hear on the album by the manager and various session players. I think that's why he just handed the album in and was making noise about leaving the label.

He is planning to release another album, Race Against Time, later and has a single from that called 'She's Glowing' which will be out November 24th.

feel a bit sorry for wiley after reading that.
 

gumdrops

Well-known member
"my album's signed to [Dizzee Rascal's label] Dirtee Stank. That's coming out next year after the Newham Generals album."

best of luck with that mate.
 
"my album's signed to [Dizzee Rascal's label] Dirtee Stank. That's coming out next year after the Newham Generals album."

best of luck with that mate.

god yeah the newham generals album

i remember harping on about that a year or more ago - completely forgot about that

i havent heard a peep from footsie or dee but to be fair ive hardly been locked to rinse at all the last year
 
there have actually been a few Newhams tracks surfacing recently in places other than Tubby's sets so you never know
 

Algierstwin

Well-known member
This is fucking awful on so many levels.

Consider this one, for instance,: why, when you are one of the most groundbreaking and talented producers of the last decade or so, who is surrounded by producers of a similar calibre who themselves have at times proven their ability to make fine, marketable pop music (e.g. Bless Beats), do you employ MARK RONSON for a BEAT on your RECORD.

WILEY!!!
You'll fool them, but not me. At least he'll get another all-denim suit out of this.

WHAT A Horrible singer on the hook as well.

totally agree with you.
 

doom

Public Housing
"my album's signed to [Dizzee Rascal's label] Dirtee Stank. That's coming out next year after the Newham Generals album."

best of luck with that mate.

:D

This must be the grime equivalent of a 1st year apprentice being told to go & ask someone for a “long weight”
 

Benny B

Well-known member
God, that new Wiley song's atrocious isn't it? Whoever it is that sings the chorus on that requires shooting immediately. Sometimes its really tough being a Wiley fan...
 

Sick Boy

All about pride and egos
Wiley sounded quite dejected when he was telling me about turning up to the studio with his beats ready to go and being presented with most of what you will hear on the album by the manager and various session players. I think that's why he just handed the album in and was making noise about leaving the label..

This is interesting considering he recently posted on RWD telling all the people who have supported him for years that "grime is dead" specifically because "radio 1 don't like it." It's starting to sound a bit like the mainstream music industry has hurt his pride.

That being said, a few days prior to that post he posted another thread talking about how Ice Kid is the next to blow. :D

Sometimes its really tough being a Wiley fan...

Ain't it the truth. I really don't think that, physiologically speaking, Wiley could ever give up grime for good though. As far as I see it, as long as Wiley is posting on RWD Forum, grime isn't dead. :)
 
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This is interesting considering he recently posted on RWD telling all the people who have supported him for years that "grime is dead" specifically because "radio 1 don't like it." It's starting to sound a bit like the mainstream music industry has hurt his pride.

That being said, a few days prior to that post he posted another thread talking about how Ice Kid is the next to blow. :D



Ain't it the truth. I really don't think that, physiologically speaking, Wiley could ever give up grime for good though. As far as I see it, as long as Wiley is posting on RWD Forum, grime isn't dead. :)

wiley has the potential in him to make an amazing album, he just needs someone that understands him, understands grime music and the music industry to help him on his way.

and rolex was great without him really intending it to be. if he forces it tho it wont happen
 

Sick Boy

All about pride and egos
I loved [Roll Deep's new album "Return of the Big Money Sound"], but the beats on this are wack. I can totally understand wanting to sound like Madness if you're a pop band - what better? - but you gotta have the choruses first. It's a prime example of the problem of MC culture - that giving one's own experience is enough, and frankly it isn't. Chatting on beats - or acoustic guitar tracks, or whatever - is about giving over the meaning of your experience to a perceived audience. If you've lost that hunger and can't do the direct experience thing then you gotta try and take that to writing songs, killer choruses...you gotta go further. See rolex and dance with me for that, it's fair enough and good I think for development. But I dunno who wasn't involved - Trim, or some backstage people or what - on this one but it fails on all levels. Sad really. Sounds and feels like a crew falling apart, if that was the intention - and see the last track, it sounds like it was - then good. It's not even heartbreaking though, it just feels like people with a platform and nothing to contribute.

You know, I finally got around to listening to this in full today, and I really don't think it is all that bad. I was expecting much worse. As an attempt at this new "commercial grime" format, it is above and beyond In At The Deep End (although this might not be a fair comparison, most things are).

There are a few tracks that are terrible ('We Can See It', 'Movin In Circles'), but there are a handful of tracks that are really good ('Give Up' [easily the best tune on the CD], 'Night Life', 'Thunder and Lighting', 'Fat Mac 90'). I am loving the addition of J2K to the line-up, and though I'm not particularly a fan of the electro-house trend, they could've done a LOT worse than 'Do Me Wrong'. Roll Deep pulling off a pop record that actually works as a pop record is something to applaud in and of itself.

Most of all though, when considering the crews ever-changing line-up, it made me realize how integral Danny Weed is to Roll Deep. For me, his productions are what make Roll Deep unique and make their tunes sound like Roll Deep tunes.

Biggest disappointment for me was 'Club 7' really not being done justice. Such a heavy riddim ruined by being made to fit a traditional song structure, seemingly just for the sake of it. Such a poor, ill-advised and unnecessary chorus on that one. They should've all just taken a break from the "song" format of the rest of the album and sprayed, a la Babylon Burner.
 
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