IdleRich

IdleRich
What happened is the night went horribly wrong and the organiser felt guilty and put his card behind the bar to buy drinks for everyone... then thought better of it and nicked the card from a pint class behind the bar and ran. The bouncer ran too and caught him so he pretended to have a fit. They called an ambulance and were strapping him on to a stretcher when he jumped up and ran to freedom.
That's not even the half of it, that night was hilarious, one band lost it and started shouting from the stage about how the audience were all cunts.
 

william_kent

Well-known member
@IdleRich Alex Sebley is mentioned in passing, but the story you related is not - like I said earlier even the other members of the band hardly get a mention for the most part

I don't mean to be critical of the book, but for a book described as "a work of fiction based on fact" about a "drug band with a music problem", well... the characterisation isn't up to much... they're not even names sometimes..

that's why I said earlier that "Mark E. Smith steals the show" because at least he comes across as a, admittedly, cranky and nasty, human being, but at least I could fill in the blanks and imply a personality gleaned from other sources
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
I meant that in general a funny anecdote could be a reason to mention someone who is not famous, I'm not saying there will be such in the book. To be clear it wasn't Alex with the ambulance.
What's the thing with Mark E Smith, is it when Nathan threw beer on his trousers and he looked like he'd wet himself on stage?
 

william_kent

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I meant that in general a funny anecdote could be a reason to mention someone who is not famous, I'm not saying there will be such in the book. To be clear it wasn't Alex with the ambulance.
What's the thing with Mark E Smith, is it when Nathan threw beer on his trousers and he looked like he'd wet himself on stage?

sorry, I was quoting you out of context to make a snide joke about the book for my own amusement
 

woops

is not like other people
I meant that in general a funny anecdote could be a reason to mention someone who is not famous, I'm not saying there will be such in the book. To be clear it wasn't Alex with the ambulance.
What's the thing with Mark E Smith, is it when Nathan threw beer on his trousers and he looked like he'd wet himself on stage?
Poor old mark a 90 year career in rock n roll reduced to this
 

william_kent

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Poor old mark a 90 year career in rock n roll reduced to this

he was acting like an arrogant rockstar backstage, and got his comeuppance by being humiliated in front of millions by the BBC presenter commenting on the unfortunate wet patch...

but, yeah, a sad, but funny, bookend to his career
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
he was acting like an arrogant rockstar backstage, and got his comeuppance by being humiliated in front of millions by the BBC presenter commenting on the unfortunate wet patch...

but, yeah, a sad, but funny, bookend to his career
It's probably what did him, in the end.

Time for Rich to write his own shocking exposé about THE BAND THAT KILLED MARK E. SMITH?
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
i read the yellow house by martin gayford as recommended by corpsey. i liked it a lot, it's a biography of van gogh and gauguin's time in southern france where van gogh wanted to establish an atelier where painters would live and work together. the book describes where they would go and who and what they painted in the one year that they shared the house. it also mentions a bunch of other painters and one thing i especially liked is how they often held very long grudges towards each other and towards people in the art world after having been denied an exhibition or after getting a disappointing review of their work - it came across as very petty. towards the end van gogh spirals down in madness with manic and psychotic episodes increasing. by the end of the book i was very touched and i felt sorry for him. he was lonely.
 

version

Well-known member
It's a bit cheesy, but it has its moments. It's filmed interestingly, it looks vaguely like his paintings.

 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
i read the yellow house by martin gayford as recommended by corpsey. i liked it a lot, it's a biography of van gogh and gauguin's time in southern france where van gogh wanted to establish an atelier where painters would live and work together. the book describes where they would go and who and what they painted in the one year that they shared the house. it also mentions a bunch of other painters and one thing i especially liked is how they often held very long grudges towards each other and towards people in the art world after having been denied an exhibition or after getting a disappointing review of their work - it came across as very petty. towards the end van gogh spirals down in madness with manic and psychotic episodes increasing. by the end of the book i was very touched and i felt sorry for him. he was lonely.
I was lucky enough to see a lot of his paintings up close on a trip to the Rijksmuseum a few years ago. A lot of them are still amazing, especially when you actually have them in front of you, and it's funny to consider how canonical he is these days, yet how weird and out-there he was seen as at the time.

But yeah, obviously a pretty sad and messed-up guy, at least in his later life.
 

yyaldrin

in je ogen waait de wind
I was lucky enough to see a lot of his paintings up close on a trip to the Rijksmuseum a few years ago. A lot of them are still amazing, especially when you actually have them in front of you, and it's funny to consider how canonical he is these days, yet how weird and out-there he was seen as at the time.

But yeah, obviously a pretty sad and messed-up guy, at least in his later life.
one of his brothers, theo, who helped him with his career, later ended up in a psychiatric hospital as well. just as one of his sisters, wil van gogh. another brother of him, cor van gogh, died in south-africa from a gunshot wound, unclear whether it was murder or suicide. the author of the book claims vincent van gogh most likely was bipolar and could have had a relatively "normal" life with our current day medication and therapy.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
one of his brothers, theo, who helped him with his career, later ended up in a psychiatric hospital as well. just as one of his sisters, wil van gogh. another brother of him, cor van gogh, died in south-africa from a gunshot wound, unclear whether it was murder or suicide. the author of the book claims vincent van gogh most likely was bipolar and could have had a relatively "normal" life with our current day medication and therapy.
I had no idea it affected his whole family. Maybe a genetic thing? Or perhaps they all had a shitty childhood?
 
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