Hauntology

[D7_bohs]

Thanks, Padraig - kinda knew it wasn't Schubert, but for some reason thought it wasn't Schumann either

 

[alo]

Treatment And The Halfway Line

The Panorama special report "Treatment and the Half-Way Line", BBC 1977, don't know the exact transmission date.

The actual post-psychedelic, quasi-Eastern Bloc seediness of the 70s is unretrievable; kitsch wallpaper and bell bottoms are transformed instantly into Style quotations the moment the camera falls upon them.
(There must be some technical reason - maybe it's the film stock they use - that accounts for why British TV is no longer capable of rendering any sense of a lived-in world).
This is the one of 1977's grimmest moments - a documentary about football hooligans who may well no longer exist in a South East London that's become obsolete -

a part of London lost forever.

Try HERE!:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Millwall-BBC-...480598454QQcategoryZ42854QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[dHarry]

Yes, I attended that same Zizek address last November [much frantic-anxious discussion with him and Luke Gibbons later in the Montrose Hotel that night ...].

tell us more/all!!

 

[tryptych]

Tentatively, since I'm just feeling this whole hauntology thing out, I'd suggest the Tea & Toast Band.

http://mentalistassociation.co.uk/stuff.htm

For their "A Winter Journey" - especially "Ghostly ghost cabinet".

 

[arcaNa]

all my faves have been mentioned already,
but i'll add
Angelo Badalamenti- Twin Peaks O.S.T.
(...used to scare the crap out of me as a kid! )

 

[vernoncrane]

Isn't Arthur Russel the ultimate Hauntologist....? I mean the cover of "World of Echo" looks like the best Hauntological LP cover too.... is that a shadowy human form just visible through the spectramatic murk....?

http://www.sinnamonrecords.com/images/catalogo/Arthur Russell-WOE.jpg

unless you count "Goat's Head Soup" of course... but then it would only be a great cover if it weren't actually by The Stones themselves...

errrr. have we done Arthur already and i'm commiting the neophyte's ultimate crime of not reading ALL the previous post?

 

[droid]

That mix I mentioned upthread is now available. I think its a bit too rich and full to really make the Hauntology grade, but nonethless:

http://www.weareie.com/2006/02/droid-slug-sc-podcast-4-shwantology.html

1. Brian Eno - Brian Eno Speaks - Editions EG (Sonora Portraits LP)
2. Aphex Twin - Blue Calyx - Warp (Selected Ambient Works 2 LP)
3. Alarm Will Sound - Blue Calyx - Cantaloupe (Alarm Will Sound performs Aphex Twin LP)
4. Brian Eno - Sparrowfall 1 - Editions EG (Music for Films LP)
5. Seymour|Van Hoen -Tema - Leaf (Invisible Soundtracks 2 EP)
6. Brian Eno - Sparrowfall 2 - Editions EG (Music for Films LP)
7. Seefeel - E-Hix2 - Rephlex (Chi-Vox LP)
8. Daniel Figgis - Alison Creaking - Rough Trade (Skipper LP)
9. Dust Devil - Blood - Blood (Blood EP)
10. Brian Eno - Lanzarote - Opal (The Shutov Assembly LP)
11. Zrs - Wuhan: Dynamoelectric Frog - SoundTransit Field Recordings
12. Autechre - To Day Retreival - Thrill Jockey (Tortoise/Autechre EP)
13. Nick Miller - New York: Walk in Central Park West - SoundTransit Field Recordings
14. Brian Eno - Discreet Music - Editions EG (Discreet Music LP)
15. Kopernik - The Sea and the Marsh are One - Eastern Developments (Kopernik LP)
16. Queen - The Ring (Hypnotic Seduction of Dale) -Elektra Asylum (Flash Gordon O.S.T.)
17. Sean O'Neill - Vientiane: Night Sounds, Bats, Crickets - SoundTransit Field Recordings
18. Biosphere - Startoucher - Apollo (Patashnik LP)
19. Godflesh - Pure II - Earache (Pure LP)
20. Tim Hecker - Arctic Loner's Rock - Substractif (Haunt Me, Haunt Me, Do it Again LP)
21. Oval - Do While (Christian Vogel Remix) - Diskont (Do While EP)
22. Hex - Shiny - Ninjatunes (Digital love EP)
23. Derek Holzer - Mooste: Walk in the Rain - SoundTransit Field Recordings
24. Ennio Morricone - Contamination - Varese (The Thing O.S.T.)
25. Brian Eno - Innocenti - Opal (The Shutov Assembly LP)
26. Tim Hecker - Untitled (5) - Substractif (Haunt Me, Haunt Me, Do it Again LP)
27. Seefeel - Me01 - Rephlex (Succour LP)
28. Brian Eno - Events in Dense Fog - Editions EG (Music for Films LP)
29. Goblin - Monster Child - Cinevox (Phenomena O.S.T.)
30. Eno - Kites II - Opal (Kite Stories LP)
31. Aphex Twin - Side D Track 2 - Warp (Selected Ambient Works 2 LP)
32. Joe Meek and The Blue Men - Glob Waterfall - RPM (I Hear a New World LP)
33. Vangelis - Deserters - OWM Bootleg (The Bounty O.S.T).
34. Krzysztof Penderecki - Psalmus - Phillips (Prospective 21e Siecle LP)
35. Future Sound Of London - Dirty Shadows - EBV (I.S.D.N. LP)
36. Aphex Twin - Side E Track 2 - Warp (Selected Ambient Works 2 LP)
37. Being - Cue - Leaf (Invisible Soundtracks 1 EP)
38. Deasy – Haul (Ambient mix) - The Fear (Unreleased)
39. David Bowie/Brian Eno - Moss Garden - RCA (Heroes LP)
40. Reza Tahami - Manjil Wood: River and Insects - SoundTransit Field Recordings
41. Michael Brook/Brian Eno/Daniel Lanois - Mimosa - Editions EG (Hybrid LP)
42. Autechre - VLetrmx - Warp (Garbage EP)
43. Brian Eno - Unfamiliar Wind (Leeks Hills) - Editions EG (On Land LP)
44. Tim Hecker - Untitled (6) - Substractif (Haunt Me, Haunt Me, Do it Again LP)
45. Christophe Havard - St Nazaire: Man with a Broom - SoundTransit Field Recordings
46. Howie B - Music For Babies - Polydor (Music for Babies LP)
47. Jon Hassell/Brian Eno - These Times - Editions EG (Fourth World Possible Musics Vol. 2: Dream Theory in Malaya LP)
48. Hex - Surf - Ninjatunes (Digital Love EP)
49. Harold Budd/Brian Eno - Lost in the Humming Air - Editions EG (The Pearl LP)
50. Bedouin Ascent - If Mountains Could Sing - Leaf (Invisible Soundtracks 2 EP)
51. Gyorgy Ligeti - Requiem for Soprano, Mezzo Soprano, Two Mixed Choirs and Orchestra - MGM/Polydor (2001 O.S.T.)
52. Eddie Newmark - Serenity: The Silent Surf - Audio Fidelity (Ambience: An Adventure in Environmental Sound LP)
53. Craig Safan - Joey’s Wet Dream - Varese (Nightmare on Elm Street 4 O.S.T.)
54. Deasy - St Theresa - The Fear (Unreleased)

I should have a better quality MP3 up once my contractural obligations to SC have been fulfilled!

 

[tate]

Fantastic mix/podcast, Droid, am finally getting around to listening to it now. Loveliness!

On the hauntology front, fellow Dissensian Pokinatcha pointed out to me today that "memory seven" from The Caretaker's "Theoretically Pure Anterogade" (recently added to the Events, Releases, and Mixes section) includes a blurry refix of the christian church hymn, "what child is this."

 

[Ness Rowlah]

I don't own it any more - but isn't there a track on "Neu 2" where someone
is rowing a boat on a lake while talking?
That track still haunts me (as does selling the vinyl).

Listening to ie The Caretaker's "We’ll All Go Riding on a Rainbow" I would say
that hauntology is also about place -
a specific place (like a British seaside town) in time (ie in the 50s).

But with a twisted aural perspective -
muffled, quite not there, like listening through a thick wall.
And with either field recordings or old vinyl recordings as a backdrop to place it.

 

[gek-opel]

S'probably already been mentioned... but Scott Walker as hauntological songwriter is a good one... not so much in terms of his music, but in his methodology of lyric writing there could be a definite argument made for this i think: haunted by the ghosts of the 20thC, and also by the ghosts of earlier songs, just hints an lyric snatches of long-forgotten ghosts of popular music (like Johnny Ace, Al Jolson etc)--- and the way the songs aren't so much songs as art-cinema crammed into the form of audio... referencing cinema beyond merely "the cinematic" (as is often found in music) but rather as a series of flickering tableaux- just like the mechanism of film... the ghosts in the machine/ the ghost-animating-machine...

 

[UFO over easy]

I'm not 100% on this, but I reckon this would probably be relevant to people interested in hauntology - http://upcoming.org/event/73361/

Ryoji Ikeda, Alva Noto and Monolake at the Tate Modern Had a brief scan on here and couldn't find anything about it. It looks good anyway!

"Monday 29 May 2006, 21.00–23.00
Part of UBS Openings: The Long Weekend - Minimalist Monday
alva noto, xerrox. Produced by forma
alva noto
xerrox
Produced by forma
Photo: Bertrand Prevost

Using electric impulses and digital tones, Ultra-Minimalism is one of the latest phases of Minimalist music and is characterised by the most extreme economy of elements, tonalities and rhythm.

This evening of performances combines live electronic music with large-scale projections of computer-generated graphics.

Each of the three artists in the programme performs a 30-minute piece.

Ryoji Ikeda performs a new work, datamatics [prototype], which has been co-commissioned by AV Festival 06 and ZeroOne San Jose and ISEA 2006 Symposium. This piece was first performed as part of the AV Festival in Newcastle, March 2006.

alva-noto (Carsten Nicolai) performs the UK premiere of a new work, entitled xerrox.

Robert Henke (aka Monolake) presents the latest development in an ongoing series of works – previously realised in both concert and installation versions – entitled Atlantic Waves, an improvisational audiovisual performance in collaboration with Torsten "T++" Pröfrock who performs remotely from Germany.

Ryoji Ikeda and alva noto performances are produced by forma. datamatics is funded by Arts Council England and the Japan Foundation through the Performing Arts JAPAN programme.
Opening Up Art
Tate Modern Collection with UBS

Tate Modern Turbine Hall
£15, booking recommended
For tickets book online
or call 020 7887 8888."

 

[gek-opel]

I don't think that's amazingly hauntological- but I'm definitely going to that... ought to be pretty decent, given Ikeda's last album (Dataplex) was almost symphonic ultra-minimal data music...

 

[k-punk]

Listening to ie The Caretaker's "We’ll All Go Riding on a Rainbow" I would say
that hauntology is also about place -

Yeh, this is literally true... the word 'haunt' literally means 'place' (i.e. my old haunt), that's part of what I was trying to get to in my 'Home is where the Haunt is' post.

 

[chris h lynn]

What about This Mortal Coil?

 

[DonRuba]

Maybe some people reading this thread noticed that I posted a question in the "questions you are dying to ask but are too scared to b/c of music nerd cred"-thread yesterday where I asked what Hauntology is. I got one answer but wasn't totally satisfied. I thought there must be more to it than that so now I've been trying to read up and get a grasp of the concept, and now I want to try out a suggestion to see if I got it right.

The suggestion is kind of off-beat I guess since it's not really music, but still:
isn't listening to numbers stations a hauntological experience?

(More on this subject if you're not familiar with it <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station">here</a> and <a href="http://www.archive.org/compress/ird059">here</a>)

The chilling feeling I get from listening to number stations is among other things about the ghost in the machine and the absence of the creator. Is that part of what Hauntology (as the concept is used in this thread) is about?

 

[Raw Patrick]

 

[mistersloane]

I've just posted a piece I wrote on the acousmetre here :
http://www.jimhollands.blogspot.com/
which I think some of you may find good for reference with regard this thread, ( Lol, mebbe not! ) which I'm much enjoying btw... For anyone who doesn't wanna read the whole thing it's about a connection between King Tubby, dub and films, and lost voices.

 

[zhao]

don't know why I only now thought of this - weeks after the life of this thread has been waning - these exemplify a procedural, practical, and formal definition of Hauntology:

Morton Subotnic's pieces which use "ghost electronics"

and

Toshimaru Nakamura's "No input Mixing Desk" series.
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... Morton Subotnick's series "The Double Life of Amphibians". This series includes four of the fourteen works that Subotnick wrote for "ghost" electronics in the late 1970s and early 1980s. The "ghost" electronics make no sound on their own, but alter the amplitude, frequency, and location of any sounds produced as the electronic score is playing. In his works for this technology, Subotnick explored the effects of these manipulations on a variety of instrumental combinations, from single instruments to chamber ensembles. The rather simple electronic manipulations in the "ghost" electronics nevertheless produce an interesting range of timbres, depending on the tone color of the instruments being manipulated.
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and Nakamura I'm sure most are familiar with, yes? if not, he uses a mixing board with no inputs - in the true spirit of "no-such-thing-as-absolute-vacuum (or silence)" - and amplifies, manipulates, and shapes the residual "ghost" sounds in the empty shell of the machine, all in analog real time with no digital overdubs or edits, into some gorgeous pieces of music. atleast on volume 1... volume 2 and 3 are interesting as well, but does not compare to the first in terms of beauty.
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also Anthony Braxton has been working on what he calls "Ghost Trance Music" since the early 80s (I think). I have a couple of recordings but have to admit that although I enjoy the free-jazz dynamics, have little to no understanding of what "Ghost Trance Music" is about or how it is different from his other music. maybe one superficial thing I notice is that the sound is more constant stream of consciousness with little silence or pause between the notes... the drums are just a blur of constant mutating rhythmic patterns and the reeds just endlessly snake and soar... kind of trancey.

please someone in the know tell me how retarded I sound (the description of Braxton's Ghost Trance Music).

 

[mms]

maybe the question worth asking is why are we all thinking about 'hautology' now ?

just occurred to me it's something this site seems to be preoccupied with at the moment.

confucious - i really want to hear anthony braxton's ghost trance music - do you know any good examples ?

that just sounds great.

 

[sean downes]