New Justin Timberlake song.

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swears said:
Another new one "My Love".
Heard a lo-fi version on youtube with one of those anti piracy messages cropping up every ten seconds, I'll have to track down a decent copy.
He's singing in a really high, feminine voice, which is always a bonus and Timbaland's beat sounds great, TI's on it, liked that "Why You Wanna" tune so it's shaping up to be a sweet track.
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"My Love" is much

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Better

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Those "wo-wo-wo-wo-woooooo" stabs in the chorus are über-hot.

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I really liked Timberlake's first album (or at least the rock-solid batch of singles contained therein) but the new single SexyBack is terrible. Ok, perhaps that's a bit harsh, but its not sexy, not really funky either, I like the guitar breakdown bit, the Timba-jections are distinctive, and the distorted voice is neat. However its groove fails to be compulsive (its not addictive in anyway, stiff but probably not in the booty-bass way they were wanting- ends up sounding kind of embarrassing) the sonics (horrible synth sounds) and mastering (so hard mastered its like being physically brutalised with a hammer over and over again) are grating in extremis, and its a bit on the tune-shy side. Its just a little bit wrote I guess, tho its really the basic flat/stiff rhythm track and underlying rave synths that ruin it a bit.

I still hope the album will have a few good tracks tho... if he's doing that ridiculous falsetto then that augurs well...
"My Love" is much better, great drum rolls and silly 80s pop-falsetto...
 
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gek-opel said:
I really liked Timberlake's first album (or at least the rock-solid batch of singles contained therein) but the new single SexyBack is terrible. Ok, perhaps that's a bit harsh, but its not sexy, not really funky either, I like the guitar breakdown bit, the Timba-jections are distinctive, and the distorted voice is neat. However its groove fails to be compulsive (its not addictive in anyway, stiff but probably not in the booty-bass way they were wanting- ends up sounding kind of embarrassing) the sonics (horrible synth sounds) and mastering (so hard mastered its like being physically brutalised with a hammer over and over again) are grating in extremis, and its a bit on the tune-shy side. Its just a little bit wrote I guess, tho its really the basic flat/stiff rhythm track and underlying rave synths that ruin it a bit.

I still hope the album will have a few good tracks tho... if he's doing that ridiculous falsetto then that augurs well...
"My Love" is much better, great drum rolls and silly 80s pop-falsetto...
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I totally agree with your take on sexyback. The timbaland-furtado track is more compelling, especially the rosario remix, and here's the video. She looks great, he sounds great, and 4 mins 40 in, it gets a trip on for a bar.
 
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Blackdown said:
the problem i have with this song is that its overshadowed by how very good his first LP was (in parts). So few r&b records get near 'What You Got' - not even Justins own new one!
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'SexyBack' is better than anything on Justified. Easily.
 
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swears said:
A big part of the appeal of Justin Timberlake is the fact that he tries to be all street and hard and fails. It's sort of endearing, everybody knows Justin is a big girls blouse, he knows it. (Chris Rock ripped him for it at the MTV awards Justin and stood up, solemn-faced and applauded) It's his slightly nerdy charm that lets him get away with it. He can't compete on an artistic level with the big names in R'n'B, that's not the point, but he's fucking great at making these goofy, fun records.
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he would really disagree with you here and probably take offence....he so badly wants to be taken seriously as a rnb artist/musician even...its so obvious...
 
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Tactics said:
he would really disagree with you here and probably take offence....he so badly wants to be taken seriously as a rnb artist/musician even...its so obvious...
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I dunno...what's he actually said on the subject?
It's interesting how R'n'B has raised the bar for pop in general though, you have to have these really glossy post-Timbaland productions and actually be able to sing to be taken seriously now. (See: Xtina)
 
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swears said:
you have to have these really glossy post-Timbaland productions
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as much as i appreciate timbaland as a musician and composer, his productions are often
quite rough. that's not a necessarily a bad thing, especially if the music is great, but i don't think he cares very much about mixing and mastering .
 
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borderpolice said:
as much as i appreciate timbaland as a musician and composer, his productions are often
quite rough. that's not a necessarily a bad thing, especially if the music is great, but i don't think he cares very much about mixing and mastering .
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You're talking about big money major label projects here... that stuff is mixed and mastered to within and inch of its life by a whole team of people. The results might sound "wrong" to you, but it's all very deliberate.
 
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hint said:
You're talking about big money major label projects here... that stuff is mixed and mastered to within and inch of its life by a whole team of people. The results might sound "wrong" to you, but it's all very deliberate.
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yes, i have been pondering this myself. there may be a different aesthetic at work. but other HipHop/RnB sounds much more "glossy" in terms of production. if you listen to records where not all tracks are timbaland, like aaliyah's selftitled last, you hear that it doesn't quite sound like a timbaland production in terms of finishing. i'd really like to know the rationale behind this part of the timba sound.
 
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Timbaland rough? Im slightly confused here- his stuff is (at its best) uber-slickly produced- he's the very reason why all other R'n'B/Post Timba Hip Hop is so shiny.
 
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I think dude is talking purely from an engineering perspective; musically, timbo sounds shiny and the sound is very precise and intentional. But as far as sound quality, a good number of his beats do sound like they've been compressed or put through a washer, sound is sort of restrained; i think it was SFJ's piece on timbo where he talks about how timbaland has all these different sounds patched through one cord or something (I don't know the engineering terms) but basically yeah as far as mastering and whatever goes, some of his stuff ("Raise Up") sounds oddly poorly mixed and mastered.
 
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gek-opel said:
Timbaland rough? Im slightly confused here- his stuff is (at its best) uber-slickly produced- he's the very reason why all other R'n'B/Post Timba Hip Hop is so shiny.
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i'm not sure i hear that. in terms of finishing, not sure i can put this in proper words. the sounds he uses, they don't sound micro-fine tuned (sexy back and the furtado collabos are cases in point). the spatial positioning as well. sure, it may be deliberate, but if so, it's a deliberate aesthetic move. the mastering of the marvellous timbaland tracks on aaliyah's last album just don't sound timba-esque in this regard.

article about tim in today's guardian
 
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DavidD said:
I think dude is talking purely from an engineering perspective;
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yes, very much so. have been trying to copy t he timba sound. i figure, i'll never have his musical, especially rhythmical imagination, but maybe, for a laugh, i can nick some mastering ideas.

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But as far as sound quality, a good number of his beats do sound like they've been compressed or put through a washer, sound is sort of restrained;
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This may be so they sound right/energetic through crappy car stereo's, or mobile phones external speakers?

DavidD said:
but basically yeah as far as mastering and whatever goes, some of his stuff ("Raise Up") sounds oddly poorly mixed and mastered.
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exactly.

DavidD said:
i think it was SFJ's piece on timbo where he talks about how timbaland has all these different sounds patched
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would you be able to point me towards this article?
 
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borderpolice said:
This may be so they sound right/energetic through crappy car stereo's, or mobile phones external speakers?
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This is definitely a big part of it.

I also think he's very good at leaving a space in the mix to let the voice dominate, whereas a lot of other r'n'b production is all about slamming everything together and leaving no gaps.

His drum sounds are usually either deep and muffled or pitched up and bright... very rarely occupying that more traditional Primo-style middleground of "Boom Bap" drums. This leaves a big hole in the upper midrange for the vocals and synths / whatever.
 
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