Tinnitus?

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Parson

Guest
people were always shocked they were deaf

good timing, good rhythm, and overall very talented dancers as a matter of fact
 
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Parson

Guest
also this was 10 years ago and listening to house and breakbeat music.

they had no problem finding the beat
 

Ness Rowlah

Norwegian Wood
Count me in.

Started last year, but now it is getting serious, ironically I think the final trigger was me trying one of these hearing tests (to check what frequencies I can hear or not) on the iPod without turning down the volume first. And almighty blast at 13-14Khz or whatever hurt like hell. And since then it's been hard getting sleep. I can only really hear the ringing when at night (daytime just as a slight pain or presence).

I can only blame myself

  • going to gigs for years&years without any protection ever (most stupid thing I probably did was put my head in the Marshall rack belonging to Seerena Manesh while they were going on full fuzz)
  • using Q-tips: check. Since I was kid. Everyone including my Nose&Ear doctor told me about "nothing larger than your elbow" in the ear. Ignored by poking my ear drum so it sometimes hurt. Until now.
  • Caffeine and chocolate? You bet. How do you avoid that? Today I coped with 2 cans of Coke and a couple of cups of tea, but my caffeine consumption has on average been at least twice this
  • I don't know, but I got a suspicion that using Etymotics (since they sit right on the eardrum) does not help
No way will I stop listening to music, but as a starter I am

  • cutting down on the caffeine and choc (health benefits anyway)
  • stopping using the in-ear phones, went to town to look at noise-reducing cans today and thinking of getting a pair of Sennheiser PCX-350s (Bose I don't like (pose?), and the SonyMDR NC60 look to small since I am wearing glasses)
  • getting some ER-20 plugs for gigs
Anything else I can do? And has anyone else suffered for a long period and then gotten better? I knew a studio engineer whose left ear was totally screwed after years of abuse and he claimed you couldn't get better, but from what I can google it seems sometimes it goes away.
 
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tox

Factory Girl
Count me in.
  • getting some ER-20 plugs for gigs
Anything else I can do? And has anyone else suffered for a long period and then gotten better? I knew a studio engineer whose left ear was totally screwed after years of abuse and he claimed you couldn't get better, but from what I can google it seems sometimes it goes away.
Are ER-20s better than Etymotics then? They look about the same shape to me...

edit: Ignore - just realised ER-20s ARE etymotics!
 

Pestario

tell your friends
  • cutting down on the caffeine and choc (health benefits anyway)
  • stopping using the in-ear phones, went to town to look at noise-reducing cans today and thinking of getting a pair of Sennheiser PCX-350s (Bose I don't like (pose?), and the SonyMDR NC60 look to small since I am wearing glasses)
  • getting some ER-20 plugs for gigs
Never heard anything about caffeine and chocolate, what's the deal?

I have ER 15s and they're pretty good. I prefer clubbing with them in than out as they cut out a lot of noise while still maintaining that loud clubby vibe. I also find talking to people easier with them as the frequencies seem clearer. If you get some clear ones people barely notice you wearing them even when you're outside having a smoke or whatever.
 

UFO over easy

online mahjong
Not too concerned over how it will look, my hearing is more important than worrying
if I look like "grandad in the house"
you won't, a lot of people wear them. kind of crazy not to

definitely worth shelling out for moulded plugs if you can, er20s are good but noise can still pass through and they affect the sound a lot more.
 

Ness Rowlah

Norwegian Wood
I did my first test of the Elacins on Thursday (London's Stag&Dagger: a skinny-jeansed&chequered shirts hipster fest if there ever was one - but with a handful of good bands).

I was quite impressed with the Elacin performance, there's a slight colouring of the sound, but overall it's just like turning the volume down to seven instead of ten.
I might get moulded plugs once I get more cash, but for now these will do the job.
 

msoes

Well-known member
the loudness/annoyingness of tinnitus is psychological. you cant get rid of the actual sound, you can only learn to live with it, and if you do then it wont seem as loud and you wont notice it as much.

neuromonics is probably the most succesful treatment out there but its expensive (6000 aussie dollars) and the whole treatment is just a tinnitus masker and some therapy chats with an audiologist. seems to work though
 
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henry s

Street Fighting Man
I've had it in my left ear for over a year now. (I say "ear", but I think it's actually more in your brain, i.e. reproducing sound waves it can no longer hear). Totally freaked me out at first, went to two specialists, basically learned that the medical profession knows very little about this condition. (Read pretty much everything about it on the internet, as you can imagine.) I certainly don't expect it to ever go away, but I really could care less now. As fellow sufferer Steve Martin said, "you just get used to it". And you do. It's always there, but I can go several hours without noticing it, and it doesn't affect my sleep at all.

I know that in some cases in can go away as quickly as it starts, and I hope you are one of those people, Ness Rowlah.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Staff member
I've got it to the right, but only the minority of the time, fortunately. I mean, most of the time I don't have it at all. It's not the classic whine, more a sort of low-frequency rumble which I can almost feel as well as hear, like a buzzing. A bit like when you have water in your ear after a shower.

Anyone else get this rumbling, rather than whining/humming?
 

Ness Rowlah

Norwegian Wood
It sure as hell has not gone away, but daytime it does not really bother me. And now I am using one of these relax applications (basically generate sound of "waves" or "rain" on the phone's speaker) when going to bed and that takes away the focus on the ringing. Seems to work so far.

Found it quite hard to quit the caffeine though.
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
Staff member
You don't think that might be something else? Maybe you have a foreign body occluding your canal.
Well it comes and goes, that's the thing. And my hearing is no less acute in that ear.

I think there are various kinds of noise tinnitus can give you, though the high-pitched whine must be the commonest.

I dunno, maybe you're right and I should get it checked out.
 

msoes

Well-known member
i do research on this stuff you can blame me for the fact that no one knows anything about it i dont work very hard
 

massrock

Well-known member
What's the latest on possible therapeutic treatments?

There was some talk about regenerating the hair follicles.

Also something about some kind of cognitive feedback thing to retrain the brain.
 

msoes

Well-known member
What's the latest on possible therapeutic treatments?

There was some talk about regenerating the hair follicles.

Also something about some kind of cognitive feedback thing to retrain the brain.
regenerating hair follicles is a long way away. tinnitus maskers are really expensive (2000+) and can work pretty good, but are really no different to downloading a masking mp3 and listening to it on your ipod. cognitive feedback has been tried experimentally and it was ok (not better than other methods though), but i dont think anyone is offering it as paying treatment.

just relax, dont worry about it.
 
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msoes

Well-known member
if any of you have any musical skill, maybe try to recreate the sound of your tinnitus with sine wave generators and the like and then listen to it on your ipod for a couple of weeks. i reckon this would work quite well but i have no idea.
 
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