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petergunn

plywood violin
i had a fleece---unfortunately, it was black and was a cat-hair magnet.
northface is a uniform over here; i suppose it works as a cloak of invisibility, just add baseball cap of local sports team----instant incognito

i got a mention in a recent Newsweek article about workwear redux

you know i read that article on the train to work this week and was like "i'd sure like to kill all those people..."

fetishizing workwear, b/c you yourself don't do physical work? yuck!

nothing against you, as i don't know which person in the article you are, and you always seem very nice and reasonable on here, but this whole thing w/ "i am going to drink small batch bourbon, shave with a 200 dollar straight razor, and wear 300 dollar hunting shirts, and thus be a real man like my granpappy the longshoreman (but w/ that modern patina of sophistication!)" needs to stop NOW!

i understand the fetishization of classic american icon brands like Dickies, Red Wings, Cardhart, Levis, Wrangler, Pendleton... what i don't understand is paying 10X the cost of the above for a "designer remake" of the above, esp when even a casual thrift store shopper w/ a lil effort can score vintage examples of all of the above... ... maybe it's my petty bourgeous roots showing, but i don't understand paying 30 bucks for a hamburger either...
 

tom lea

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since december i've been rocking

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or

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with

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unbuttoned. tight-ish black jeans into the boots. good t-shirt, and that is me.

i have a quite garish nike cap that i wear occasionally, like if i've got a white t-shirt on and i'm not wearing the jacket. usually when i want to look cooler than i actually am. i've basically forgotten how to dress for occasions where a barbour and boots won't do. plus i feel really short now if i wear regular trainers.
 
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mistersloane

heavy heavy monster sound
i understand the fetishization of classic american icon brands like Dickies, Red Wings, Cardhart, Levis, Wrangler, Pendleton... what i don't understand is paying 10X the cost of the above for a "designer remake" of the above, esp when even a casual thrift store shopper w/ a lil effort can score vintage examples of all of the above... ...

You can get second hand pendletons still, but getting any decent Levis (for me, with short legs, like people used to have) long, long went out of the window without paying top, top dollar. It's a shame but the prices they're charging aren''t too bad
 

empty mirror

remember the jackalope
fetishizing workwear, b/c you yourself don't do physical work? yuck!
yes, i agree.

to be frank, that article, and others reporting on the workwear "trend" are nauseating. i don't pay those prices and i do find the enterprise somewhat perverse. one thing i can say about these collabs between heritage brands and young designers is that the fit is superior to the originals. i think people are shaped differently now.

for me, it is about buying a quality garment (hopefully made in USA) for grown ass men instead of fast fashion for tight-trousered walking haircuts. i am not one for field & stream cosplay!
 

mms

sometimes
yes, i agree.

to be frank, that article, and others reporting on the workwear "trend" are nauseating. i don't pay those prices and i do find the enterprise somewhat perverse. one thing i can say about these collabs between heritage brands and young designers is that the fit is superior to the originals. i think people are shaped differently now.

for me, it is about buying a quality garment (hopefully made in USA) for grown ass men instead of fast fashion for tight-trousered walking haircuts. i am not one for field & stream cosplay!

it's a glorifying of a vintage work aesthetic in a time of recession, and when these kinda clothes are not really used for what they are anymore. it's kind of archiving isn't it.

i went to the barbour shop to get some wax for my jacket the other day, and the guys who ran it were anglo indian, the owner was dressed head to toe resplendent in the finest country wear.
i wear this kind of stuff, ie tough wearing jeans, sweatshirts, a barbour because i don't buy that many clothes and as my girlfriend will note i have a habit of ripping my clothes or covering them in something staining.
 

tom lea

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i currently have a rip down the leg of my one pair of jeans, and it's annoying cuz it looks like i did it deliberately or it started there. i might look for a replacement pair today after football.
 

Leo

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anyone know of places that can duplicate a pair a jeans?

i have two pairs of original helmut lang jeans that are the only jeans i've ever worn that are a perfect fit on my tall/skinny frame, but they don't exist anymore (someone else now owns the helmut lang brand but i don't like their new looks). slim cut but not tight, sit perfectly on the waist, perfect length...but after years of non-stop use, they are starting to go. tried many other styles/brands over the years but all either too tight, too wide, too frilly, etc.

i'd imagine working with demin is different from other materials, so an average tailor might up for it. any thoughts? could be in nyc or online. thanks.
 

STN

sou'wester
I ripped some Levis climbing over a fence the other day. The crotch ripped, so it was a comedy rural accident of the highest order.

Thinking of buying some Clarks Wallabies, so that people think I am Ghostface Killah.
 

empty mirror

remember the jackalope
anyone know of places that can duplicate a pair a jeans?

i have two pairs of original helmut lang jeans that are the only jeans i've ever worn that are a perfect fit on my tall/skinny frame, but they don't exist anymore (someone else now owns the helmut lang brand but i don't like their new looks). slim cut but not tight, sit perfectly on the waist, perfect length...but after years of non-stop use, they are starting to go. tried many other styles/brands over the years but all either too tight, too wide, too frilly, etc.

i'd imagine working with demin is different from other materials, so an average tailor might up for it. any thoughts? could be in nyc or online. thanks.

there are two places in NYC that i can think of off the top that do made to order jeans----Earnest Sewn (i am pretty sure) and Jean Shop. also, since you are in the area, you may want to drop by rby45rpm to try some stuff on, or blue in green.

i've always wanted to check out the old HL jeans but the never ever ever wash policy doesn't sit well with me. water and cotton are friends.
 

empty mirror

remember the jackalope
ho boy, "manliness"
ha i was about to write "enter nomad" in that post but yes i am referring to 1950s manliness
i appropriate aspects of that notion
believe me, i am about to be mr. mom at home, i don't really have hang-ups about that kind of thing and i think most people assume i am wild jungle homo when they meet me
it is fun to put on the manly man-----give it a go!
:cool:
 

Leo

Well-known member
there are two places in NYC that i can think of off the top that do made to order jeans----Earnest Sewn (i am pretty sure) and Jean Shop. also, since you are in the area, you may want to drop by rby45rpm to try some stuff on, or blue in green.

i've always wanted to check out the old HL jeans but the never ever ever wash policy doesn't sit well with me. water and cotton are friends.

cool, thanks! i got these HL originals at super-reduced prices at century 21 (!), so it'll be hard for me to pay too much for reproductions. we'll see what they charge. but considering i've been wearing them for years, i guess it might be worth it.

re: washing, one pair i have is definitely dry clean only, but the other is a slightly faded black jean that's ok to wash (but air dry).
 

empty mirror

remember the jackalope
you know you could just get a discounted pair of whatever and ask a tailor to taper them to fit like your HLs

that is as far as i'd trust a tailor with a pair of jeans
Blue in Green does chain-stitching for the hems on a vintage Union Special but i think they provide that service for jeans bought in-store only

one thing to consider with 45rpm is that they repair their jeans for free for life
and they will tailor their OTR jeans to your specs for free
that is no small thing
they do bespoke jeans but that is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
just think of cost per wear-----over a dozen years the 45rpms don't seem THAT expensive
(also, another route would be to try the 45rpms on in-store, then order them from japan via proxy; to give you an idea, i got sorahikos for just over 200 bucks straight from jp----they cost 330 or so from the NYC store)

but the recession being what it is, check eBay for Engineered Garments jeans, they fit great, are made in USA, and are frequently sold for less than one hundred bucks (many models are selvage, and all have taped seams at the hem and other great details)
 

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
ha i was about to write "enter nomad" in that post but yes i am referring to 1950s manliness
i appropriate aspects of that notion
believe me, i am about to be mr. mom at home, i don't really have hang-ups about that kind of thing and i think most people assume i am wild jungle homo when they meet me
it is fun to put on the manly man-----give it a go!
:cool:

ha should I call you Butch? j/k
 

mistersloane

heavy heavy monster sound
we are all in drag

Yeah i was gonna say something like that but not as well put! All clothes are is fetishisation of something, I think fetishising work is as powerful as fetishising, say, money or sex or power. Is it any less disgusting because it's work? What would you rather invest with your economic power?
 
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