a good read in the nme
- Thread starter outraygeous
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i agree that they should have a little something in the mag about grime since they're referencing some pretty heavy names like it's nothing, however it is an indie magazine. music writers are generally music nerds, i don't see why they wouldn't know about ruff sqwad, roll deep etc.
anyways, just the way they look makes me sick, let alone their music. ironic garbage. we have the same shit going on over here with the whole spankrock garbage.
anyways, just the way they look makes me sick, let alone their music. ironic garbage. we have the same shit going on over here with the whole spankrock garbage.
Slothrop
Tight but Polite
But generally, irony as a way of appreciating music isn't about saying "ha ha lets make some shit music, won't that be funny." Even for the most coke-addled hipster, that's got to get boring after about twenty seconds. It's more a way of listening to music that you enjoy but that you can't admit - to your friends or to yourself - to liking. Irony is the safety net that lets you genuinely get off on music that is in one way or another uncool. Obviously the fact that certain kids can't admit to liking grime in an honest fashion but go mad for it when it's presented in a repackaged fashion is nasty itself. Although you might hope that since Hadouken don't exactly try to hide their appreciation of grime some of that might rub off...
As to Hadouken themselves, you can think they're shit but a) given the amount of complaining around here about indie guitar bands being only influenced by indie guitar bands and not taking on any of the varied and exciting ideas thrown up by dance music, it seems a bit harsh to slate them just because they try to take influence from grime and b) if you've read any of what Dr Venom writes it's pretty obvious that he's a serious and genuine grime fan and not just doing it for the irony.
As to Hadouken themselves, you can think they're shit but a) given the amount of complaining around here about indie guitar bands being only influenced by indie guitar bands and not taking on any of the varied and exciting ideas thrown up by dance music, it seems a bit harsh to slate them just because they try to take influence from grime and b) if you've read any of what Dr Venom writes it's pretty obvious that he's a serious and genuine grime fan and not just doing it for the irony.
crackerjack
Well-known member
Isn't it more likely the other way round, that they don't like grime in its most 'pure' form, only when it's repackaged and reshaped in a way that makes it more comfy for them?
hurricane run
Well-known member
Do cool kids read the nme? cool kids certainly don't write for it nme doesn't seem to know where it's breads buttered at the mo
liked the bits at the bottom of the pages Cosgrove as hipster rather than fat football presenter nostalgia here for the vibes page what happened to sherman? i loved his euphoria tune
liked the bits at the bottom of the pages Cosgrove as hipster rather than fat football presenter nostalgia here for the vibes page what happened to sherman? i loved his euphoria tune
Its the way the rhythm of Grime is completely flattened into thumping conventional rock, all its brilliant asymmetric angles straightened out into a pounding standard issue rock back-beat... completely pointless exercise, as far as I'm concerned... (to me the very thing that makes grime so brilliant is the jerky, cubist wrongness its angular anti-funk like a post-punk for hip hop, in a way... altho grime itself has become more rhythmically conventional itself of late of course, more is the pity...
fantastic description.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
A bit like the way the much-missed Shoreditch Twat basically existed to take the piss out of about 90% of its readership...