Minimal house anthems

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elgato

I just dont know
love it. so chunky

on a similar 'minimal' does cheesy euro-house tip, although much less lush and quite a bit more banging, One & One and I Don't Know by Chelonis R Jones. the whole album is awesome, i was very late to it but have been rinsing it of late
 
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sodiumnightlife

Sweet Virginia
you can't despise a tune because of a kick drum! It doesn't matter to me that its a synth and a vocoder, fuck it, what they do with it is amazing. The whole atmosphere of the tune makes up for its retro fetish.
 
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childrentalking

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sorry, I was being flip. when was the last time you heard "dull euro-house" with drum programming anything like Falling Star? it's not exactly Get Physical. the chunkiness comes from how fat the synth sound is.
 
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childrentalking

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for coherence's sake, I'll state my point:

disliking the track is personal preference, obviously, but saying it's a standard 'euro house' track when it doesn't even have a standard house kick is a little strange. then saying it would be a funky house track if you removed the synth, spacey effects and vocoder and replaced them with a bassline and a scratchy guitar is a little ridiculous. since all the track consists of is: synth, spacey effects and vocoder.

it's more 'tracky' and spaced out than italo obviously. it's not like a cover record or anything. but i'd say this is fairly indisputably smith n hack's stab at euro disco.
 
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dogger

Sweet Virginia
Gabba Flamenco Crossover said:
This is all my lighthearted 2c worth, I'm not gonna take a massive stand on it or anything. But I've got to say, I do keep an eye on this thread and check out the tracks y'all are hyping, and most of them are pretty 'meh' to me. I'm a washed up old git though :)
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have you checked out much stuff on ostgut ton? the klock/dettmann 12 (dawning b/w dead man watches the clock) is superb dusky, brooding techno and the len faki delta remixes (on ostgut) are absolutely storming...worth checking out if you haven't already. ben klock's resident advisor podcast showcases the sound pretty well too
 
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elgato

I just dont know
for new stuff...

Phonica is the best i think, go in on a weekday though cos it gets rammed. if you're polite i find they're very helpful

Sounds Of The Universe has a big selection too, and i love that place

Sister Ray is good although the staff have been dismissive and rude everytime ive been in :/

increasingly BM-Soho also, but their prices are high

all within about 400 yards of one another
 
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Gabba Flamenco Crossover

High Sierra Skullfuck
Alright, steady. You all like it, I don't particularly (though I don't remember saying I despised it), neither can prove the other wrong, so each to their own. I do believe I've already said that.

But, since the point's been raised...

childrentalking said:
saying it would be a funky house track if you removed the synth, spacey effects and vocoder and replaced them with a bassline and a scratchy guitar is a little ridiculous. since all the track consists of is: synth, spacey effects and vocoder.
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If you took the vocoder, the FX and the synth bass out, you'd be left with the groove, the structure, the chord changes and the vocal. If one is thinking like an old school producer, that's the track there, everything else is the production. Dance music blurs the boundaries, but a track is more than just the sounds you use, it's intangibles like energy, groove, atmosphere, soul, whatever. You know this anyway so I won't labour it.

The wider point is that if your going to be influenced by italo, you can either say 'lets try to get that slick, frigid, coked out, neon-sunrise-over-Rimini feel and do something with it', or you can say 'lets get a quarter note synth bassline, a vocoder and some space invader noises'. The latter approach, in my personal and very humble opinion, is a bit played out, and that's what I'm hearing here. That's a general point about being influenced by anything, I'm not a rabid italo-defender.

childrentalking said:
i'd say this is fairly indisputably smith n hack's stab at euro disco.
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And I'm saying it's a pretty lame stab. If you're still playing it regularly in two years time, I'll come stand outside your house and eat a lifesize cardboard cutout of Georgio Moroder complete with genuine human hair - such is my confidence it's not a keeper. In the meantime get on and enjoy it with my best wishes.

Cos I'm so underemployed today, I upped some old italo (the Ganymed is borderline proper disco really) and some newer stuff that I think uses the influence in an interesting way - not to prove a point, just to make peoples afternoons go a little quicker. Download here. Two of the tracks are taken from the CBS Top 100, which is a good place to hear lots of italo in one place, should anyone want to.

elgato said:
it must be with a very different ear that someone of your generation listens to these tunes
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Easy tiger, easy! I'm only 31, still some way off free bus travel. Kids these days, no respect!

dogger said:
have you checked out much stuff on ostgut ton? the klock/dettmann 12 (dawning b/w dead man watches the clock) is superb dusky, brooding techno and the len faki delta remixes (on ostgut) are absolutely storming...worth checking out if you haven't already. ben klock's resident advisor podcast showcases the sound pretty well too
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Thanks dogger, I haven't heard those and yes I will check them. I usually check most of the stuff that gets mentioned on this thread, I just wish I liked more of it :confused:
 
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dogger

Sweet Virginia
Sick Boy said:
What are good record shops to buy all this shit? (in London)
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yeah phonica's probably the best...they get all the new stuff as it comes out but their selection of backlist isn't so great. staff /are/ knowledgeable but can be a bit offhand. like most record shops i guess...sisterray just round the corner has a decent selection too.
 
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elgato

I just dont know
Gabba Flamenco Crossover said:
Cos I'm so underemployed today, I upped some old italo (the Ganymed is borderline proper disco really) and some newer stuff that I think uses the influence in an interesting way - not to prove a point, just to make peoples afternoons go a little quicker. Download here. Two of the tracks are taken from the CBS Top 100, which is a good place to hear lots of italo in one place, should anyone want to.
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thanks for that, i'll be checking later :)

Gabba Flamenco Crossover said:
Easy tiger, easy! I'm only 31, still some way off free bus travel. Kids these days, no respect!
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apologies! in dance music terms though thats at least a generation! i hope you know what i meant. what was the stuff that you fell in love with? what is it that you dont like about a lot of the new things you hear?
 
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childrentalking

Well-known member
Alright that clarifies your position a little but it doesn't make saying it's a few degrees and production patches shy of a funky house track any less absurd IMO. but whatever, I'm not steamed over this or anything. I've certainly never heard any funky house, or euro house, with such a drawn out, spaced structure as this. But we can let it lie.

you might as well bring the cut out of Moroder round now. I can guarantee you I will still like this track in two years, along with the other Soundstream/Soundhack/Errorsmith/MMM/ad infinitum that's fairly frequently in rotation and has been for a long time. As far as producers go, you don't get any higher in terms of quality control than these guys... seriously. Their past records as producers speak for themselves. I appreciate your criticisms of the track, but these guys know what they're doing. 'Falling Stars' hits my pleasure zones like few other records from this, or any other year. it's far from being some throwaway forget about it tomorrow thing.
 
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