The Justice LP and Ed Banger Records

mms

sometimes
I kind of wish the production went a bit further, I was somewhat disappointed by level of industrialised distorted mid-range, it could be much more nasty, also probably more edits and stuff would be good... something like "Phantom" say is OK, but it stills sounds a little tame... would be awesome if it sounded more like the crunchy Mr Oizo stuff or the more banging end of Jackson's stuff... also the drums on a lot of Ed Banger stuff are dull- people go on about them having "stadium rock" drums but that is pure bullshit, sure they appear to be attempting something like that, but they lack the sonic mass necessary to achieve something properly headbanging, whilst at the same time are deficient in more traditionally house-like syncopation.


phantom is a goblin track from tenebre.
which makes me feel they're like hardcore but with sampling for cool cult classic things rather than that street/back thru soul and funk thing that hardcore had. it's all tres self concious since justice have a campy horror image.

yes agreed tim it is a kinda messier electroclash thing, in the same way that css are a messier electroclash thing than peaches.

i thought the last ed banger lp had about 2 good tracks on. it was very poor as a showcase lp.
 
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mms

sometimes
I think I said up thread that I prefer their LP to the Justice one. The more indie sounding tracks with vocals work pretty well in the LP context I think.

There seem to be a fair few UK representatives emerging as well. I'm thinking mainly of Kissy Sell Out, Filthy Dukes and Switch. There are some good tunes about but quality control seems very low.

there is a group called skull juice from brikstan and a more interesting argententian group that do things with it more rhythmically too.
 

Betamaxnomates

Wild Horses
the vocals on the justice LP are ghastly though aren't they?

Yeah. The track with Uffie is particularly atrocious. I think there's some great individual tunes on the album but overall it's less than the sum of its parts.
Personally, I think the Simian Mobile Disco record is the best of the bunch. They seem to have approached it very much with an 'album' sensibility in mind, rather than just putting out a collection of floor-fillers.
 

swears

preppy-kei
mos dan: "Waters of Nazareth" is probably their biggest "hit", it's the track that got them noticed in the first place. I'm sure you can listen on juno.co.uk or somewhere.
 

tox

Factory Girl
i'm feeling very lazy. can someone tell me what web-available justice tune to check out first?

Forget all the naysayers in the "blog house" thread - this is exactly the situation which Hype Machine was made for!

Just stick the player on this page and see what you think...
 

tox

Factory Girl
there is a group called skull juice from brikstan and a more interesting argententian group that do things with it more rhythmically too.

Oh yeah, dunno why I left them out. Saw them spin records a few months back, but the set was very student orientated and left me feeling like I'd wondered into Ramshakle (Carling academy's evening of "Stompin' indie and funky shit") or something. They were playing Leeds student union though to be fair so it could have been tailored towards that crowd.

Their blog's very nice though!
 

mos dan

fact music
thanks for the tips!

re skull juice:

Oh yeah, dunno why I left them out. Saw them spin records a few months back, but the set was very student orientated and left me feeling like I'd wondered into Ramshakle (Carling academy's evening of "Stompin' indie and funky shit") or something. They were playing Leeds student union though to be fair so it could have been tailored towards that crowd.

Their blog's very nice though!

they're great, you should take any of the thousand opportunities to see them play out in ldn at the moment.. they really know their music as well, they're not just scenester chancers. also, they're kinda mates.. *acknowledges bias* ;)

they were in time out recently, billed as 'erol prodigies'.
 

tox

Factory Girl
More info on this please.

Take it with a pinch of salt, but there are persistent rumours that they didn't turn up for a selection of lives shows last summer.

Popbitch August 2006 said:
>> Human after all <<
The greatest rock'n roll swindle

So, you're a reclusive but legendary dance
act. You decide to do a few gigs. Your
agent contacts the big European festivals
and tells them you are prepared to do three
dates only - to the highest bidders. Bidding
reaches 300,000 euros, so you agree. And
then your agent rings more festivals and says
- ok, you'll do ten dates only, at 300k a
pop. You then do these festivals dressed as
robots. Except, you don't even bother going on
stage for every gig, you get two replacements
to work the pre-programmed synths etc.

Congratulations - you are Daft Punk!
 

tox

Factory Girl
i'm pretty sure that was fairly conclusively proved to be wrong.

Oh okay.

To be honest I can't remember hearing much more about it than that... A quick google turns up nothing related so I wouldn't be surprised if its just Popbitch gossip. (Still not a fan of Daft Punk though - maybe its the overplaying of One More Time on CBBC that's done it!)
 

Noah Baby Food

Well-known member
Ed Banger have got some alright stuff, but "Homework" poops on it all from a great height. Not arsed about anything DP have done since though, really.
 

3underscore

Well-known member
Well, the live set by Daft Punk is very, very sequenced (though to be honest it only makes sense that it should be, as it is with Kraftwerk).

I know someone who saw them twice within a few weeks this summer, and twas identical. Just to say that what they suggest is entirely plausible. Heads back to the NYE years ago where Scanner got booked to play in about 15 different cities, and played all of them. None of them was him.
 

tryptych

waiting for a time
... the 'big idea' in both cases is to make synthesised music that borrows its sonics from house and techno but its structure from rock: huge riffs, verse-chorus-verse patterns, breaks in forward momentum rather than seamless movement etc.

Just like big beat circa 1996..?

I also think the Simian Mobile Disco album is the best of the bunch. Although a friend of mine referred to them as "the new-rave Orbital" :slanted:
 
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