kids these days

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preppy-kei
Hmmm...I don't mean they let me drink Scotch and smoke a pipe. They just credited me with a bit of sense. Some people talk to kids like they're training a show dog.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Hmmm...I don't mean they let me drink Scotch and smoke a pipe. They just credited me with a bit of sense. Some people talk to kids like they're training a show dog.

Oh sure, I didn't mean to imply you were treated like that. But sometimes people take things too far in one direction or the other with regards to kids' behaviour; on the one hand expecting them to behave sensibly and maturely at all times and therefore seeing it as 'aberrant' when this isn't always the case, syndromising it as ADHD or something and putting them on powerful and possibly harmful medication; or on the other hand, patronising/controlling/coddling them, as you say.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I went to the theatre on Saturday and it was one where the centre space was surrounded on four sides by chairs, the play took place in the centre as well as at the sides and everywhere really. Amongst the audience was a woman with two really young kids, maybe three and five or something, I don't know. About four seconds after the play started they started talking/whining and kept up a steady stream of noise throughout the whole play. About five minutes in they were lounging around on their chairs staring at the ceiling, taking pictures of the audience and each other with their mobile phones, by about an hour in they were obviously totally bored and they were both crawling around the edge and actually on the stage so that at times the actors had to step over them, however their owner made no attempt to stop them at any point beyond an ineffectual shh every now and again. At two points in fact she also had to rush across the stage herself to take one to the toilet, dodging the actors on the way. I expected the children to take a bow at the end when the play finished but no, they actually weren't part of it.
I don't blame the children for that but it seemed extremely selfish of the woman. She must have known that there was fuck-all chance of the kids sitting right through the play without spoiling it for everyone else (especially as they children were clearly French and the play was in English) so she shouldn't have brought them along. If she couldn't find anyone to look after them for her she shouldn't have gone too. Seems to me that some people think that they're going to carry on having the exact same life that they had before they had kids and if anyone else doesn't like it they can lump it. I reckon people ought to realise that they are going to have to make sacrifices when they breed and not assume that having propagated the species gives them some divine right to piss everyone else.
Don't know what it teaches us about "kids these days" but it seemed to be something to do with what people are talking about and I thought I would mention it.
 

Eric

Mr Moraigero
This kind of thing is not just an imposition on everyone else but also an imposition on the kids. They are the ones who had the least choice in this situation really ...

And how could she possibly enjoy the play? Sigh.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Christ, that's so fucking selfish. And hard on the kids too, as you say. I can't believe someone else in the audience didn't say something to her.

What the hell is a three-year-old doing with a mobile phone, anyway? Are you sure the phones actually belonged to the kids?
 

STN

sou'wester
God, I was dragged to all sorts of nonsense by my parents as a kid. I have seen both The Tempest and Jesus Christ Superstar rendered as Japanese Noh plays but I like to think I was quite well behaved, if often literally bored to tears.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
"This kind of thing is not just an imposition on everyone else but also an imposition on the kids. They are the ones who had the least choice in this situation really ...
And how could she possibly enjoy the play? Sigh."
Indeed. I think it's more to do with bloody-mindedness. "I went to plays before and I'm going to go now. I'm not going to let them make me feel uncomfortable and I certainly am not going to apologise because I haven't done anything wrong. As a mother I have a divine fucking right to do whatever I want because mothers are sacred and holy and a higher race than those selfish fucked up weirdos who haven't got kids or - worse - use a babysitter" is what I overheard her saying to someone at the end.
Not that I cared that much, the play was pretty boring and they provided some light relief as far as I was concerned but it's the principle of the thing.

"God, I was dragged to all sorts of nonsense by my parents as a kid. I have seen both The Tempest and Jesus Christ Superstar rendered as Japanese Noh plays but I like to think I was quite well behaved, if often literally bored to tears."
Well, there were two even smaller kids there who behaved perfectly fine so it's not just the age thing. What annoyed me is that they started so soon in, it wasn't as though they got bored (like me) when the second hour started, it was the minute the introduction began and that made me realise that the mother must have known there was no chance of it being any different.
 

bassnation

the abyss
Well, there were two even smaller kids there who behaved perfectly fine so it's not just the age thing. What annoyed me is that they started so soon in, it wasn't as though they got bored (like me) when the second hour started, it was the minute the introduction began and that made me realise that the mother must have known there was no chance of it being any different.

do you think a good smack on the botty was warranted there?

and once the mum was dealt with, maybe tell the kids off too? ;)
 
N

nomadologist

Guest
I went to the theatre on Saturday and it was one where the centre space was surrounded on four sides by chairs, the play took place in the centre as well as at the sides and everywhere really. Amongst the audience was a woman with two really young kids, maybe three and five or something, I don't know. About four seconds after the play started they started talking/whining and kept up a steady stream of noise throughout the whole play. About five minutes in they were lounging around on their chairs staring at the ceiling, taking pictures of the audience and each other with their mobile phones, by about an hour in they were obviously totally bored and they were both crawling around the edge and actually on the stage so that at times the actors had to step over them, however their owner made no attempt to stop them at any point beyond an ineffectual shh every now and again. At two points in fact she also had to rush across the stage herself to take one to the toilet, dodging the actors on the way. I expected the children to take a bow at the end when the play finished but no, they actually weren't part of it.
I don't blame the children for that but it seemed extremely selfish of the woman. She must have known that there was fuck-all chance of the kids sitting right through the play without spoiling it for everyone else (especially as they children were clearly French and the play was in English) so she shouldn't have brought them along. If she couldn't find anyone to look after them for her she shouldn't have gone too. Seems to me that some people think that they're going to carry on having the exact same life that they had before they had kids and if anyone else doesn't like it they can lump it. I reckon people ought to realise that they are going to have to make sacrifices when they breed and not assume that having propagated the species gives them some divine right to piss everyone else.
Don't know what it teaches us about "kids these days" but it seemed to be something to do with what people are talking about and I thought I would mention it.

maannn I hate this kind of thing so much. PAY FOR A BABYSITTER. they come at like $4/hour.

i've been to 5-star restaurants (and shitty ones) where kids are whining and throwing fits, it's annoying and the parents are inconsiderate morons. also: do not allow kids under 6 into films ffs.
 

blubeat

blubeat
also: do not allow kids under 6 into films ffs.
I would rather not let anti-social people of any age in. My little boy is three and sat quietly and very still through The Simpsons movie and Ratatouille. The same could not be said of the teenagers sat a few rows behind us. One of them didn't *take* a call, he *made* a call!
 

Gavin

booty bass intellectual
Smoking ban vs. spanking ban...

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