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[nomadologist]

I know what you mean--I hate to scare you, but you really remind me of myself about 10 years ago.

I'm way more embarrassed by things I've done for love than anything I've done sexually or on drugs.

 

[zhao]

Anyway...funny how people often find it harder to talk about love than sex, it is as much of a taboo in some ways.

wow we're really doing this... ok

my ex used to say that people don't know how to love anymore. that the world has changed, that there is less love now than before. it was like a theme with her. i tend to agree though. climate is colder, harsher it seems. though my point of reference is... the grunge era

 

[nomadologist]

I think it's easier to tell what sex actually is.

run of the mill sex leaves you a lot less vulnerable, as well

you can have sex without love, and love without sex, but when you have both you're pretty much reduced to an infant

 

[nomadologist]

wow we're really doing this... ok

my ex used to say that people don't know how to love anymore. that the world has changed, that there is less love now than before. it was like a theme with her. i tend to agree though. climate is colder, harsher it seems. though my point of reference is... the grunge era

This is why people like Lacan were upset about the sexual revolution--they thought that repression and the various structures reliant and determined by it were ESSENTIAL to society and various other things.

See: Freud's Civilization and Its Discontents

 

[noel emits]

Fuck love man, love is a lie.

No, I don't mean that, entirely. But what the 'eck is it? As Foreigner so eloquently demanded. I mean there's all kinds of different kinds. And so often what is interpreted as love is really some kind of dependence or something.

 

[hundredmillionlifetimes]

run of the mill sex leaves you a lot less vulnerable, as well

you can have sex without love, and love without sex, but when you have both you're pretty much reduced to an infant

Well this guy, groan ... is one real hubristic infant [no wonder Cait divorced him].

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Alternatively, this is reason enough to divorce her:

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[gek-opel]

Can I mention Badiou on love...? He's not very helpful really and appears to have just "acquired" Lacan's theory of sexuation and slotted it into his conceptual schema. So basically love= (roughly) the disjunct between 2 (or possibly more) alternately sexuated partners, where sexuation is not biologically or socially defined but rather in terms of their approaches to the other truth proceedures...

Quite the romantic!

 

[noel emits]

I mean who are we to believe here? Howard Jones? Whitney Houston? Jennifer Rush? It's so bloody confusing.

 

[zhao]

No honestly, I do have low self esteem sometimes, and when you're in that mindset you're just being "honest". Plus I'm joking a lot of the time (sort of). It's more like I want people to say "I know how you feel."

this was really endearing. i know how you feel. no really. you guys may laugh if i say i am shy and introverted. but honestly that's who i am inside, and have had to force myself to not be over the years, (moving to a new continent not speaking the language will do that sometimes). and at the end of the day that is still me.

but back to topic: it is such a loaded word that it would take decades to disentangle the meaning of.

 

[baboon2004]

Fuck love man, love is a lie.

No, I don't mean that, entirely. But what the 'eck is it? As Foreigner so eloquently demanded. I mean there's all kinds of different kinds. And so often what is interpreted as love is really some kind of dependence or something.

The scary thing about love is just that - there will always be one of you who is more in love than the other, and one of you to whom the ending of the relationship will be more devastating.... I can't think about that for too long otherwise I get too depressed...

Re Foreigner - see 'Fucking Amal' for the best-ever recontextualisation of that song.

 

[nomadologist]

Can I mention Badiou on love...? He's not very helpful really and appears to have just "acquired" Lacan's theory of sexuation and slotted it into his conceptual schema. So basically love= (roughly) the disjunct between 2 (or possibly more) alternately sexuated partners, where sexuation is not biologically or socially defined but rather in terms of their approaches to the other truth proceedures...

Quite the romantic!

Badiou did that with all of his thought--stole it from someone else and slid it in between "truth" and "math"

 

[noel emits]

The scary thing about love is just that - there will always be one of you who is more in love than the other, and one of you to whom the ending of the relationship will be more devastating.... I can't think about that for too long otherwise I get too depressed...

So that'll be Electronic - Getting Away With It.?

 

[baboon2004]

So that'll be Electronic - Getting Away With It.?

I must admit I cna't remember that song....will check it out !

 

[noel emits]

I really hate most pop love songs - even though my head is full of them without me even realising. If I'm in a shop and they have the radio on or something I feel like my world is caving in and need to get out of there sharpish.

 

[zhao]

The scary thing about love is just that - there will always be one of you who is more in love than the other, and one of you to whom the ending of the relationship will be more devastating.... I can't think about that for too long otherwise I get too depressed...

ok since you guys asked, the single worst experience with love that comes to mind:

one of my first relationships, i was 19 and we were hitting some rocky parts of the road. this was when Leaving Las Vegas just came out on video and she said she wanted to see it that night. so i rent it and wait for her to come over. until 2AM. i heard from mutual friends she had gone out with another guy... and decided to watched that thing by myself. didn't sleep that night... was broke and didn't even have a single drop of booze in the house. think i had a certain song off of Spectrum's Highs Lows and Heavenly Blows on repeat until morning.

 

[nomadologist]

Well this guy, groan ... is one real hubristic infant [no wonder Cait divorced him].

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Alternatively, this is reason enough to divorce her:

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uuuughh, I loathe Fiona Apple. How many women built a career on wanting to be Tori Amos? Not that I like that heinous bitch much either, but at least she can actually play.

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[Gavin]

Badiou did that with all of his thought--stole it from someone else and slid it in between "truth" and "math"

Wow I love how dirty this sounds.

The captions in swears' first vid are for you to sing the broken Japanese English in yr head, right?

 

[Gavin]

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[zhao]

Wow I love how dirty this sounds.

The captions in swears' first vid are for you to sing the broken Japanese English in yr head, right?

except the part in the end that goes "ah... ah...." that you're supposed to sing out loud.

 

[Gavin]

Lately the Misc forums are like a totally awesome party