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zhao

there are no accidents
oh dear... i said that didn't i. from one of the most intense fights between me and nomad. but relationship counselors always say it's not about the fights but how well you make up afterwards -- and we always make up, i'd like to think each having grown a little bit each time.
 

zhao

there are no accidents
the spaced out threads were one of the most fun i remember ever having on the internet. and this fight represented, as someone pointed out, nothing less than the clash of paradigms and fundamentally different ways of looking of the world...

down with noel as well, but i for one am glad to like a student, much better than any sort of "expert".
 

luka

Well-known member
actually i meant nomad and gek and gavin. so many books and lectures regurgitated completely undigested. so little understanding. i ended up feeling really sympathetic towards them. specially the bit about talking circles round your therapists!
sounds like some horribly protracted nightmare adolescence.
 

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
actually i meant nomad and gek and gavin. so many books and lectures regurgitated completely undigested. so little understanding. i ended up feeling really sympathetic towards them. specially the bit about talking circles round your therapists!
sounds like some horribly protracted nightmare adolescence.

Yes, luka, you are the paragon of maturity! If only we could all be more like youuuuu!!!!!!
 
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nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
Did you know that it's thought that most grown men who behave passive-aggressively have daddy issues?

No, I just made that up.*

*But it seems that way, doesn't it?
 

scottdisco

rip this joint please
so the plane was alright eh Luka.

did you know i was in a caff the other day, right, and asked for a macchiato, and the resulting drink was practically a caffe latte.
 

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
oh dear... i said that didn't i. from one of the most intense fights between me and nomad. but relationship counselors always say it's not about the fights but how well you make up afterwards -- and we always make up, i'd like to think each having grown a little bit each time.

It's ok Zhao. Really, drugs always make a relationship go south, there's no way to be in a "healthy" relationship with a drug addict. And I was a drug addict. At the time, I wasn't ready to change, so I didn't.

But it's all good now. As good as it can be. Thanks for talking afterward by the way, I enjoyed it.
 

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
By the way, Zhao, I liked these "spaced out" threads too, that was a more fun time in Dissensus when Gek (one of the alltime best posters here) was still around. People were more prolific and talking from personal experience, which for my entertainment buck is more fun than the endless listmaking and fanboy circlejerking.

I definitely had similar experiences with Gek about therapy being a little bit of a negative feedback loop, especially at first--which is common. I was young and my diagnoses were still being worked out. What I said wasn't "misunderstanding" anything, I was being candid about how I often did nothing more than manipulate my therapist when I didn't feel like complying with treatment. Treatment is difficult, it takes time, it's draining. When you're done with a session that you've actually worked hard at, you just want to sleep. Putting up walls is very common, but especially in addicts.

I don't think anything I said in this thread demonstrated a "lack of understanding", more a candor about my own experiences in therapy, and how I'd purposely fucked around to avoid dealing with anything.

I'm not going to bother reading through this entire thread again, but as far as S&M goes, give me a fucking break already. I love how people will give me a hard time about it, and then they'll go put their dog on a leash and walk it and talk about how much they wuv their wittle doggie. Except I didn't genetically engineer my partner to be entirely dependent on me and unable to survive without me. Anybody who owns a dog or a cat, or domesticated animals, or pets, can shove it.
 

craner

Beast of Burden
He's not a douchbag, but he's certainly passive agressive. I've been telling him that for years. The second clause, not the first.
 

nomadthethird

more issues than Time mag
He's not a douchbag

I like luka. I read through some of the thread, and sure--lots of my self-deprecating humor about my own dysfunctional behavior sprinkled with some vague leftisms and discussion--but Noel Emit talking in new ageisms about "essence" hardly blows the drug-addled studentisms out of the water.

I've changed my mind about a lot of things since I stopped doing speedballs for breakfast, lunch, dinner and hourly snacks. Everyone changes their mind about things.

, but he's certainly passive aggressive.

You were the one who originally brought this to our attention iirc. :)
 
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