Funky/London/UK House

mistersloane

heavy heavy monster sound
Alot of the Apple/DJ NG type stuff sounds alot, ALOT like the stuff that people in South Africa rock. Interestingly Dennis Ferrer is massive over there as well.
 

Blackdown

nexKeysound
confirming that it was 'journos' who came up with Grime and bringing back the Forward thing I typed from long time...
everyone like to blame the "media" - so i'm not so sure.

from my experience at the time, i was very much under the impression that it came from a conversation between then Kiss DJs, Matt 'Jam' Lamont and EZ, when Matt said "I'm not playing any of that grimey garage... ."
 

gek-opel

entered apprentice
Alot of the Apple/DJ NG type stuff sounds alot, ALOT like the stuff that people in South Africa rock. Interestingly Dennis Ferrer is massive over there as well.
This stuff is the good stuff. Apple isn't even 4x4 is he...? More broken/soca?

The rest is indistinguishable from house ordinare as far as I can tell anyway...
 
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nomos

Administrator
really interesting piece, martin. nice work. great luck to have gee, souljah and zinc around as well.

i'm really liking the broken percussive stuff from apple (even though my copy of bean arrived with a lip like a ski jump). from an overseas perspective, i can tell thing have gone more underground, london-centric because i've had to order from rhythm division for the first time in about three years. the bigger (and sometimes more reliable) sellers haven't got the distro yet.
 

mistersloane

heavy heavy monster sound
This stuff is the good stuff. Apple isn't even 4x4 is he...? More broken/soca?

The rest is indistinguishable from house ordinare as far as I can tell anyway...
I love that 'tell me' track, it sounds so much like coffee table kwaito, i really hope the producers start looking to africa.
 

tate

Brown Sugar
Really, really interesting piece, thx for taking the time to transcribe it.

A person can really glean a lot from that conversation, not only from the explicit details/venues/tunes/DJs/genre labels (totally fascinating info there), but from the way that they're discussing everything, certain points crystal clear to all, other points needing to be returned to and hashed out ... you really get a sense of the difference between this and the northern scenes too, tune-wise ... what I love is how one word can cover concentric circles that overlap, then you go deeper and deeper into those concentricities and new microcosms are there, micro-scenes with slightly different social/fashion/aesthetic expectations and always there's a bit of overlap, it's so interesting to be able to get a sense of the differences between what gets played at the afterhour parties versus the club proper, which of course makes perfect sense and is immediately understood, but for an outsider like moi there'd be absolutely no way to learn about the insider details of that kind of thing (shy of being on AIM with producers/djs, lol) ... so yeah, much appreciation for the piece, blackdown.
 

straight

wings cru
just makes the scene sound even more boring and grimmer than i initially thought. compounded even further by the retarded promotion (um.. lets make sure noone confuses this with hed kandi style crap by.. um... putting half naked girls sayin 'shh' on the flyer). ive got a feeling this one is a lot more exciting on the outside lookin in.
 

Ach!

Turd on the Run
I really like Jellyjams' track "Make Me".

I never really heard grime playing out of car stereos that much, apart from mine, but recently I've heard a lot of cars go by blasting those kinda soca-y but harsh sounding house beats alongside stabs of pure sine-wave sub-bass.
 
so does anyone have any rapidshare mixes of what's going on in this sound right now? rinse podcast speeds are a par, can't be doing with it.
 
I love that 'tell me' track, it sounds so much like coffee table kwaito, i really hope the producers start looking to africa.
its got a fucking didgeridoo in it!!!

have to say this is hardly a dancefloor in a state of abandoned ecstasy

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maybe part of the appeal of this stuff is it's easier to "socialise over"

(even though my copy of bean arrived with a lip like a ski jump).
haha. the few of these tunes i've bought have had to go under the hot tap for flattening. some really wonky pressing going on for sure!
 

?OmEnS!

Member

gumdrops

Well-known member
this apple guy is very good.

one track on his myspace makes me think of afro-latin-influenced broken beat, but harder and with a bit of balls (thank god).

the first track - mr bean, is like the drum pattern from wileys no qualms but with a techno-y synth and a broken beat rhythm.

this stuff could get *really* interesting.
 
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Sick Boy

All about pride and egos
After reading this piece I went back and listened to Perempay's most recent show and also Supa D's.

I wasn't particularly moved by the show - it was nice enough, but again, nothing really leapt out at me. It's just all too, I don't know... lounge-y. Apple is fuckin' brilliant though - those tracks on his myspace page definitely stand out against the majority of these tunes - there is something particularly different about them. Is this guy like Funky's Wiley or what? Do a lot of people like him?

You know what it reminds me of? Does anyone remember that track "What Have You Done" by One Tribe? It was on Pure Garage V, and doesn't actually sound a lot like garage, but it does sound quite a bit like this.
 

Sick Boy

All about pride and egos
I know what frustrates me most about funky now: I am dying for some more soul and femininity in the testosterone-hell that is current underground UK dance music, and though funky is providing this alternative, my gut is telling me that it won't be the answer I'm looking for. :(
 

Blackdown

nexKeysound
Leads me onto the question of whether anybody has any sets by any of the DJs which are playing at these afterparties "when it gets really grimey"
i think this is a reference to the crowd/audience being, ahem, pretty 'road' rather than the music right now.
 
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