elgato

I just dont know
on it's own it's too linear and specific, hides too much. it's massively overused. in last year's burial thread i was arguing that if you followed a thread defined by feminine pressure rather than 'what all the boys are into right now,' you'd come up with a radically different looking 'nuum.'

Completely on point

But even if you stick to it strictly defined then it seems to me that there is a very obvious point of comparison... the emergence of UK garage. the injection of gospel and soul via house and garage (positive, uplifting music) into a scene dominated by darker forms?

Granted I like the US house and garage which I understand influenced the early guys quite a bit more than the stuff im hearing now, but still as a point of comparison it seems incredibly close... and think how much grime has changed the face of UK dance! I for one have considerable hope in where this stuff might go, musically at least.
 
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Alfons

Way of the future
@Alfons - Niche/Bassline & 4/4 house = northern post-speed garage variant.
UK/funky house = London nuum community adopts funky house music as their own.

Thanks, although Im not really sure if I can tell the difference

From what Ive listened to on those myspace links I don't hear nothing new about this stuff, some of it's interresting but I think the grime/dubstep/nuum influence would have to get stronger while keeping it funky. Will be interresting to see future developments

Where do these sorts of nights take place?
 
I swear none of the other strands of the continuum ever developed from something this dull though...

uk garage similarly developed out of a scene that initially had few domestic productions

though i'm making no claims

the gap between some of the better london "funky house" and something like "left leg out" isn't so huge. some of the better dubstep around at the moment is heading towards more of a kick heavy blueprint
 

mms

sometimes
uk garage similarly developed out of a scene that initially had few domestic productions

though i'm making no claims

the gap between some of the better london "funky house" and something like "left leg out" isn't so huge. some of the better dubstep around at the moment is heading towards more of a kick heavy blueprint

i think ukg grew from second room sped up house etc then it pulled in more yardish soundsystem elements, then it created its own set of stylistic rules etc,
mala loves house esp theo parrish etc he's got a housey thing going thru his productions for sure.
 

Logos

Ghosts of my life
Thanks, although Im not really sure if I can tell the difference

Niche sounds like 187 lockdown.

Funky sounds like a bit like a Defected compilation.

@ Tanadan - wasn't stageshow, had a house tempo and everything.
 

Transpontine

history is made at night
This is a bit of a "girls back to the dancefloor" move so don't expect too much just yet ;)

Its dance music y'know! Seriously, nothing wrong with that - it doesn't have to be sonically innovative if it works.

More to the point, like many threads on dissensus this one makes me think there's just not enough time in the week to catch up on all the various mutating sub genres out there. I would like to invite a benefactor to sponsor me to give up work so that I can spend all day, and more nights, listening to music. Any offers.
 
imo

which leads me back here. What is this turn about? Straight hedonism? Or is all the above just nonsense?!

straight hedonism

i see the point of the term as useful shorthand but i think it makes less sense with each year.

YAY!

geeneus' has told me he's written house tunes with grime sounds which sound pretty interesting. also with this audience it's inevitable the music will get rawer...

I've heard some of this stuff and it made me wanna go and make music...like the best music does for me...sounded hard yet funky in a rigid way, sqelches and s***...not dubstep and not grime...

fresh (tangent - can this even apply to a lot of music anymore?)

why do ppl want the music to get hard though? then it might only appeal to 'thinkers', bloggers, beatmakers and net heads...not the dancefloor, I mean the REAL dancefloor like ppl that dance not just turning up and head nodding or 'absorbing'...I mean I'm a bit of both but...if the music is getting ppl raving just let it do that I guess
 
why do ppl want the music to get hard though? then it might only appeal to 'thinkers', bloggers, beatmakers and net heads...not the dancefloor, I mean the REAL dancefloor like ppl that dance not just turning up and head nodding or 'absorbing'...I mean I'm a bit of both but...if the music is getting ppl raving just let it do that I guess

I'm not sure if people want it to get "hard" so much as fully form its own distinct identity and hear some good records coming through...which is starting to happen. doesn't have to be a "slippery slope"...

it can't JUST be about populism otherwise we're on a friday night town centre residency tip

however i think everyone realises the dancefloor is the bottom line
 

Logos

Ghosts of my life
I'm not sure if people want it to get "hard" so much as fully form its own distinct identity and hear some good records coming through...which is starting to happen. doesn't have to be a "slippery slope"...

it can't JUST be about populism otherwise we're on a friday night town centre residency tip

however i think everyone realises the dancefloor is the bottom line

Yes, this is what I was getting at...I don't think most of 2-step was particulalry 'hard' but it was more 'avant' and unique (yet dancefloor) than listening to DJs spin US garage dubs for ever.
 

elgato

I just dont know
Yes, them and the US producers that are repped by people on that scene, like Jacob London.

yeh i like some of it a fair bit, Phil Weeks and Robsoul are good also. mostly the aesthetic isn't quite on the mark for me but some of it is sick. at the start of the summer i was listening to a Natural Rhythm mix and thats exactly how i imagined this new funky house scene to sound... much more of the garage snap and swing in the beats

but im much more interested in the incorporation of grime / dancehall / soca etc to this new sound, cos a lot of that jackin stuff seems a bit inward looking
 

Gabba Flamenco Crossover

High Sierra Skullfuck
but im much more interested in the incorporation of grime / dancehall / soca etc to this new sound, cos a lot of that jackin stuff seems a bit inward looking

Yes, that's my problem with it really. It's view of black music is strictly within soulboy connoisseur limits.

But you can drop El-B and Horsepower records in with that stuff and it drops, no problem.
 
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