Ory

warp drive
Hi Dissensus. So what ABOUT Apple, does he actually have any releases?

he's apparently got an EP and album in the pipeline.

if you're asking about old releases, there's the Mr Bean and Segalizer 12"s, but they're long sold out.
 

gyto

Active member
please tell me this is just lazy lyrics...

????!!!! is this what a 'good' vocal is now? :mad::confused: im not surprised the girl aint interested...

beat is pretty cool, but a pretty standard funky one at that no?]



edit: its actually been in my head all morning so perhaps it does its job :/
 
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baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
I dunno, the new Roska EP does sound very good (there are longer samples on Roska's myspace page BTW) but it's also precisely the sort of gentrification move which I think is ultimately the wrong direction for the scene. If you take away the street/dancehall/african/grime elements of funky, what are you left with? A polite broken beat/tech-house amalgam, which I'd still listen to, but wouldn't really monopolize my interest.

I think too often the critical move taken by listeners and artists both is to define their vision by virtue of what they reject - on the one hand there are people who applaud funky when it becomes less housey, less feminine, less kitsch ("oh my god the instrumental of "African Warrior" is actually really good!!" being a good example of this - not that this is an awful thing to say, I even understand where it's coming from, but I've read it about seven times now). On the other, people who applaud any clear rejection of immaturity in favour of "deep" tracks. Fair enough that Roska wants to react against people reducing him to grime-in-disguise, but I think a better way to do this would be to work the more dangerous side of his approach into more expansive tracks that combined a housey or "deep" feel with his more darkly percussive elements. Instead the solution seems to be to pursue a scaled-back middleground.

For me, funky is at its best when it's throwing all the balls into the air. One reason I love that Mak 10/Shantie set to death is that it seems dedicated to this - lots of tough muscular rhythms AND lots of ridiculous, gaseous helium female vocals (also this reminds me of the golden age of rave = never a bad thing).

At any rate I much prefer "Feeline"/"Climate Change"/"Nasty Nasty Nasty" Roska to "Wonderful Day"/"Proverbs Roska. Accordingly my favourite track on the new EP is the "Pyramids" redux of bonus track "Without It".

I just think 'Proverbs' is (from the samples) a remarkably good Detroit-y track - nowt to do with wanting the scene to become more polite.

What is the Mak 10/Shantie set of which you speak - sounds great?
 

Tim F

Well-known member
Sorry Baboon as I said I like the tune too, not suggesting that liking it is sinful at all!

I think the Mak10/Shantie set was March 26? The link was posted here a while back...

It's already the thing I've listened to most this year I think.
 
Agree completely- and with Mak10, HH Banton and a few others, it's definitely Deja that are showing the more interesting sides of this sound. Underappreciated perhaps, but that's everyone else's loss really.
 

QueenofSheba

Keep It Funky!!
Might be in the minority but I think that's absolutely rubbish.

I agree, but the video is good.

It would be better with a vocal like this one.... That would be much more comical :D

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Simon78

Well-known member
I agree, but the video is good.

It would be better with a vocal like this one.... That would be much more comical :D

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Wow... :eek:

In the info box on youtube it says:
The UKs No1 female comedian pokes fun at the new Blackberry craze with this funky house summer anthem. Look out for the heavy Show Me The Blackberry dance/skank, it will be all over the clubs!!!

Is it just a joke?
 

luka

Well-known member
theres never been a time when rinse was better than de ja. the only thing rinse had was wiley.
 
theres never been a time when rinse was better than de ja. the only thing rinse had was wiley.

It's suddenly reappeared on my dial over the last few months and Rinse seems quite inferior really. In terms of grime I think that statement's a given- no idea what they've been upto over the last couple of years though.
 

baboon2004

Darned cockwombles.
Sorry Baboon as I said I like the tune too, not suggesting that liking it is sinful at all!

I think the Mak10/Shantie set was March 26? The link was posted here a while back...

It's already the thing I've listened to most this year I think.

Ah, I know. Just surprised to read something you said on dance music that I even vaguely disagreed with! Are you still posting stuff to skykicking (if i have the name correct)?

Cool, I'll search for that set. Must've missed it first time round.
 

gumdrops

Well-known member
dont think ive heard deja on my radio for years (is it digital/online only now?). i can get rinse, but they have too many shit house shows that make me swear in the car.
 

QueenofSheba

Keep It Funky!!
theres never been a time when rinse was better than de ja. the only thing rinse had was wiley.

I have to disagree..... They're both good for their separate entities but I think Rinse has to have the winning card for innovation. Deja seems to follow in their footsteps in a few things. Podcasts, online streaming..... Back in the day I used to LOVE the live calling session on Rinse on Sunday nights.... that was the highlight of my weekend at the end of EVERY weekend..... The continuation of deliverance is a BIG winner for me
 
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