Ragga Jungle

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rivet90210

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That's interesting about Mr Bean, if only i got a copy so that I could have noticed that myself! I'm curious about how these links come about. The Greensleeves case sounds like it was a money thing, or is that a bit too harsh considering they paid their artists? I know there are a few jungle records on Gussie P and I definitely have a jungle thing on Saxon.... shed the light anyone:D
 
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BareBones

wheezy
droid said:
Ebay is your only way really. Ebay, Popsike and patience. Discogs is for mugs.

You might wanna try a few online reggae shops as well. They often have jungle comps and 12s hidden away in their stock.
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cheers, that's what i expected really... i guess i'll have to keep my eye on ebay then...
 
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martin

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BareBones said:
sorry to go off topic slightly, but does anyone know a good (ie affordable) way of acquiring jungle records? Extremely hopeful question i know, but I was way too young to be buying any of it first time around, and now that i want to buy loads of it, everything on discogs etc is at least £25 per 12", some i've seen are like £75. And i never see any job lots come up on ebay like you often do for garage/grime.

Upsetting.
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Don't go on Discogs, it's like the UK housing market 4 years ago. What everyone needs to do is start slagging off ragga jungle online, deride it as gaudy rubbish for bedroom saddos, etc - it's riding high cultural currency at the moment. Whereas in the late 90s, you could pick up a 12" for 10p and have some indie guitarist behind the counter of MVE sneer as you handed it over, because it wasn't Optical... Aesthetically equate ragga jungle with those old 'Give Em Enough Dope' comps and the prices will plummet.

That hasn't really helped you, but eBay's a better bet I guess...
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
rivet90210 said:
-reaches for woofah-.... yeah it was all done by SUAD
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too right then. if ever there guys to stand in for the whole HCC...they even have a killer dubstep record! (well the Martyn remix really, but still)

has anyone heard their pre-ardkore late 80s rap records as Private Party?
 
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rivet90210

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droid said:
Saxon (via desert storm) were partly behind the Desert Storm Ragga Jungle/vocal jungle compilations. Never released anything on 12 afaik. Remixes of Saxon tunes along with ragga jungle standards:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Desert+Storm+Recordings
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I recognise those covers (from scouting ebay for them some years ago).

I have a white of this: http://www.discogs.com/Dennis-Brown...-3-Various-Whip-Dem-Jungle-Sax/release/399157 and I've always wondered if there are more.
 
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droid

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Wow...didnt know about that. There is a Papa Levi jungle tune, but it aint on Saxon.
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
droid said:
Saxon (via desert storm) were partly behind the Desert Storm Ragga Jungle/vocal jungle compilations. Never released anything on 12 afaik. Remixes of Saxon tunes along with ragga jungle standards:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Desert+Storm+Recordings
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alright, sorry about this endless barrage of questions:eek:, but - but there's like 3 Desert Storms. There's Desert Storm Recordings which is what you're talking about, but then there's also this Desert Storm Soundsystem which is related to this record, one of favorite house/techno records of all time. are these the same people? confusingly there's also a 3rd Desert Storm which is a Czech breakcore label.
 
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droid

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Are the record and soundsystem really related? All the references to the DS soundsystem on discogs are 2000 or later... nothing on rolldabeats about em either. Id say its just a shared name.
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
droid said:
Are the record and soundsystem really related? All the references to the DS soundsystem on discogs are 2000 or later... nothing on rolldabeats about em either. Id say its just a shared name.
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this is what I figured. but that Desert Storm/Scoraig 93 12" is from '94 - actually I got a bit obsessed with record a few months ago - a one-off, mysterious Scottish deep house gem & a political house record to boot, those allusions to Gulf War I - and I looked it up & it turns out the people who made ithad a techno soundsystem that they took to Bosnia/Serbia/etc. during the height of the wars there! echoes of Woebot & Senegal innit. anyway thus my mild obsession w/anything they might have put out.

oh nowadays I guess they're into some kind of alterna-circus bizness (kind of a post tekno traveller ting) tho I can't find the website for it.
 
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matmustard

theta
All this jungle talk led me to dig out a few old 12s.
I thiiink you can listen to the mix here
http://www.zshare.net/audio/56253126ba2f46b9/
This was my first attempt at filesharing and I found it bare fuckery! I'd almost forgotten just how how much energy these tunes had tho, and the DJ Massive tunes is still percy.
Kings Of The Jungle – Charged (intro)
DJ Monk & Kenny Ken – Good Body Girl (remix)
Redlight / Garnett Silk – Ruling
Conquering Lion - Code Red
Shabba Ranks – Let’s Get It On (Goldie & Dillinja remix)
Dillinga – Tear Down Da Whole Place
D*Note – Criminal Justice (A Guy Called Gerald remix)
Cool Hand Flex – Must Feel
Buju Banton / Miami – Champion
Trinity – Gangsta
Shy FX / Gunsmoke – Gangsta Kid II (The Final Chapter)
DJ Massive – Final Conflict
Shy FX / David LeBoom – Who Run Tings (outro)
 
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droid

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Some nice tunes there, thanks.

Found another UK reagge produced jungle tune (i think):

Fashion 133 (12"): General Pecos - Wickedest Thing Around (Groove Mix) / Wickedest Thing Around (Pasino Mix) // General Pecos - Wickedest Thing Around (Digital Doc Jungle Mix)
 
benjybars

benjybars

village elder.
can people recommend more records that sound like

Remarc - R.I.P (remix)

???

does anything else come close?
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
benjybars said:
can people recommend more records that sound like

Remarc - R.I.P (remix)

???

does anything else come close?
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dude.

do you mean Remarc's own remix (which is on that straight up Remarc amen rinseout tip) or the more famous DJ Hype Remix which has that rubbery bass & is more on some proto-hardstep (or proto-jump up) Ganja Kru ting? they're both friggin' great of course. either way.

a lot of these tunes have probably been mentioned upthread but just running thru the ragga jungle playlist on the mp3 player (cos half these records cost a million dollars, tho some are available fairly cheap on comps/RE/etc):

Bagga Worries & Jooxie Nice - Legalize
Brainkillers & Schwarzenegger - Soul Pill Remix (on the Kemet Crew LP)
Chris Jay - Junglist Soldier
DJ Hype - Bad Man
DJ Mowgly (Alec Empire) - Take a Pull Pon Me Spliff
Krome & Time - Ganja Man/Studio One Lik
Leviticus - Burial
Mr. Realistic - If a Sound Test
Prizna ft. Demolition Man - Fire
Red Light - everything really
Remarc - Unity ft. Simpleton, also his remix of Fire
Rude Bwoy Monty - Out In Da Street
Splash - Babylon
Studio One - To the Rescue
Top Cat - Ruffest Gunark (DJ Rap Remix)
X Men - Tearin (Informer)/Sweet
also - lots of Kemet Crew stuff, Congo Natty (tho a lot of his stuff is more jump-upish), M-Beat, etc. plus of the neo-ragga guys some Soundmurderer & SK-1 tunes, also Krinjah's done some good stuff
loads of ragga jungle refixes - Under Mi Sensi, Here I Come (G-Funk Remix), 6 Million Ways to Die, DJ SS' mix of Limb By Limb, tons & tons others
 
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padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
oh tbc - obviously not all of those are as mind-blowing as R.I.P. but a few are & they're all fantastic tracks along that same hard, frantic '94-95 ragga jungle tip.
 
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martin

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I'm just gonna namedrop here, I worked with Remarc's brother's girlfriend between 2003 and 2005, and she was very cool.

Nobody's really mentioned "Dancehall Junglist" by Tuff to the Bone, which to me was one of the highlights of '94.

Also, does anyone remember 45 Soundboy by Antix? I was pleasantly shocked to discover I still have it on 12", I'd assumed I'd lost or sold it yonks ago.
 
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droid

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Ive really been getting into F.X./SLM aka Darren Jay and DJ Yomi. Hypocrite, Boof Dem, FX chapter 2... all killer releases on Tone Def.

Alsoo - Labello Blanco's 'Jungle Massive vs The Hardsteppers' samplers... mash dem down Smokey Joe remix. Urban Shakedown's 'The Arsonist', Gunman VIP, Remarc remix of 'ride de punaany'. Some of the best ragga jungle in 4 handy eps.
 
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